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Old 07-06-2016, 06:45 AM
 
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One youtube video, please. Do you have an article surrounding the details, I'm guessing the Life News since the lawyer missed this one.
Pull the 911 recording yourself. Perforated uterus, necessitating an emergency call to 911.

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So this one incident in Texas was sufficient to pass HB2, seriously.
And the 3 others from the same facility within a 30 day period. Pull the 911 records.

Additionally, like I said... I just posted CDC stats showing that nearly 80% of all abortions are SURGICAL procedures. There's absolutely NO reason whatsoever to not require such providers to meet ambulatory surgery center standards, unless you're a MISOGYNIST.
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Old 07-06-2016, 06:58 AM
 
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911 emergency call from a surgical abortion clinic in Houston:

There were 3 other 911 emergency calls for surgical complications within the same 30 day period in 2015.

That's why meeting surgical center standards IS necessary.
How many people die from medical mistakes IN HOSPITALS???


In 2010, the Office of Inspector General for Health and Human Services said that bad hospital care contributed to the deaths of 180,000 patients in Medicare alone in a given year.

Now comes a study in the current issue of the Journal of Patient Safety that says the numbers may be much higher — between 210,000 and 440,000 patients each year who go to the hospital for care suffer some type of preventable harm that contributes to their death, the study says.

That would make medical errors the third-leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease, which is the first, and cancer, which is second.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...D3PVfZ4iI_1qfg
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Old 07-06-2016, 06:59 AM
 
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Why are abortion clinics needed to dispense pills. Why can't a doctor's office do that? And how can they dispense pills when Brigham's medical license has been suspended?
Obviously there are MDs working there.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:00 AM
 
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Abortion is not without risk. In 2010, 10 women were identified to have died as a result of complications from known legal abortions.

Abortion Surveillance — United States, 2011 - CDC

Like I said... I posted CDC stats showing that nearly 80% of all abortions are SURGICAL procedures. There's absolutely NO reason whatsoever to not require such providers to meet ambulatory surgery center standards, unless you're a MISOGYNIST.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Pull the 911 recording yourself. Perforated uterus, necessitating an emergency call to 911.

And the 3 others from the same facility within a 30 day period. Pull the 911 records.

Additionally, like I said... I just posted CDC stats showing that nearly 80% of all abortions are SURGICAL procedures. There's absolutely NO reason whatsoever to not require such providers to meet ambulatory surgery center standards, unless you're a MISOGYNIST.


Those are Operation Rescue and Life News videos, I don't quite trust them.


If they were legitimate they would have been quoted in the oral arguments yet they were strangely silent. Let me ask again, do you have any records specifically from Texas, not the CDC but Texas , since this is so pervasive surely the Texas Health Services has records.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:24 AM
 
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Those are Operation Rescue and Life News videos, I don't quite trust them.
Then pull Houston's 911 call records. FOIA request.

Public Information Act Requests - Houston

Look, you can argue all you want to be a misogynist. This is the U.S.; you have the right to be a misogynist. I, however, reserve the right to NOT be a misogynist.

I'm pro-choice, but when nearly 80% of all abortions are SURGICAL procedures, there's NO way anyone can legitimately argue that ambulatory surgery center standards aren't necessary. Particularly when women DIE as a consequence of legally performed abortion complications.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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Then pull Houston's 911 call records. FOIA request.

Public Information Act Requests - Houston

Look, you can argue all you want to be a misogynist. This is the U.S.; you have the right to be a misogynist. I, however, reserve the right to NOT be a misogynist.

I'm pro-choice, but when nearly 80% of all abortions are SURGICAL procedures, there's NO way anyone can legitimately argue that ambulatory surgery center standards aren't necessary. Particularly when women DIE as a consequence of legally performed abortion complications.
Perhaps you should try to educate yourself as to what a surgical abortion entails. It's not surgery in the classic sense.

https://www.ucsfhealth.org/education...ical_abortion/
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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Perhaps you should try to educate yourself as to what a surgical abortion entails. It's not surgery in the classic sense.
Nearly 80% are classified as surgical procedures by the CDC, and even the link you provided classifies curettage abortions as surgical procedures. Likewise, the CDC tracks women's deaths as a result of legally performed abortion complications.

You, too, can argue all you want to be a misogynist. This is the U.S.; you have the right to be a misogynist. I, however, reserve the right to NOT be a misogynist.

I'm pro-choice, but when nearly 80% of all abortions are SURGICAL procedures, there's NO way anyone can legitimately argue that ambulatory surgery center standards aren't necessary. Particularly when women DIE as a consequence of legally performed abortion complications.
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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Nearly 80% are classified as surgical procedures by the CDC. Likewise, the CDC tracks women's deaths as a result of legally performed abortion complications.

I don't believe that the CDC actually classifies the procedures. When abortions achieved via medication (either oral medication or an injection) became available, there was a distinction made between medical abortions and all other abortions. "Surgical" describes any abortion that is not induced by medication. It does not mean that there was actually any surgery involved.
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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Then pull Houston's 911 call records. FOIA request.

Public Information Act Requests - Houston

Look, you can argue all you want to be a misogynist. This is the U.S.; you have the right to be a misogynist. I, however, reserve the right to NOT be a misogynist.

I'm pro-choice, but when nearly 80% of all abortions are SURGICAL procedures, there's NO way anyone can legitimately argue that ambulatory surgery center standards aren't necessary. Particularly when women DIE as a consequence of legally performed abortion complications.
You are repeating yourself but avoiding the question for good reason, you don't have any facts.


An operation rescue youtube video does not equate to data, maybe the lawyer should have put that one up on the screen in the supreme court. I am sure that would have been a convincing argument.


Oh yeah, you're pro-choice LOL.
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