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Old 07-16-2016, 09:14 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Except that the U.S. and Europe are importing these people from third world countries in large numbers. What's the difference then?

Need the stroking it emoticon right about now. You know what I'm talking about here, we don't have 6 to 8 kids per family like other parts of the world.


Yes, immigration, illegal and legal needs to be checked, got it, but we're not in the same boat as places like India or Africa. Let's keep it real here.
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Old 07-16-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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Meanwhile, one of the big arguments from conservatives as to why gays are bad is, because they don't reproduce. Seems like we need more gays!
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Old 07-16-2016, 09:22 PM
 
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Meanwhile, one of the big arguments from conservatives as to why gays are bad is, because they don't reproduce. Seems like we need more gays!
Right? great point.
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Old 07-16-2016, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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It does not help that the world's largest religious cult believes that birth control is a sin.
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Old 07-16-2016, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Stop feeding and medicating those countries with high birth rates.

Problem solved.
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Exactly!

All those "charities" running all those heart wrenching commercials featuring bloated, malnourished children, complete with flies crawling around their eyes, are doing major damage to the planet while getting your donations.

IMHO all "aid" should be tied to contraception and sterilization.
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It must be "fantasize about mass genocide" week on city-data.

I can honestly say I have yet to run into a right-winger on this site who could be classified as a good person. It's mind-boggling.
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Old 07-17-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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people can't just pop out kids if they feel like it, but you know that no politician who actually wants votes and to win office won't say a word about it.

Of course, because it's not considered to be PC. There is no excuse for having kids you can't afford to feed yourself unless you plan on the taxpayer supporting them or you won't control your sexual urges and make sure you use birth control before engaging in sex. Far too many don't even consider our population growth either. They just don't plain care. It's all about them and nothing else.
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Old 07-17-2016, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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It does not help that the world's largest religious cult believes that birth control is a sin.
While this is true, the most rapid reproducing religion is Islam -- which happens to believe that polygamy is perfectly acceptable. The world has never known a better turbo-charger for rapid population growth than polygamy.
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Old 07-17-2016, 08:31 AM
 
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Something like 8 billion. It'll be 20 billion in a few decades. Already in the U.S., the economy isn't growing enough to keep with the small population growth, and on top of that the population growth means that the cost of land/housing continues to go up, up, up. Then there's the increased commute times, increased competiveness of getting good jobs when almost all of the jobs being created are low-wage or part-time.
The population only becomes a problem when over-industrialization and
careless exploitation misuses the available resources.

There is roughly 2 acres of arable land available to every human person
on the planet today, and another 60% of non-arable land that can be
used for housing and industrial.

The problem is that we don't have governments who are willing to change.
As long as everyone's hooked on the false promises of anarcho-capitalism,
predatory banking and reductionist utilitarianism, as opposed to intentional
projects that utilize new technologies and holistic approaches to resource
distribution, Earth will be destroyed.

Who will stop the love of money and the deceptions of power over others
from destroying our precious Earth and her children ?

Recommended:
Harmony: A New Way of Looking at Our World
Degrowth: A Vocabulary for a New Era

Extracted: How the Quest for Mineral Wealth Is Plundering the Planet: A Report to the Club of Rome
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
The Tragedy of the Commodity: Oceans, Fisheries, and Aquaculture (Nature, Society, and Culture)

Against The Grain Podcast


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Old 07-17-2016, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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This isn't a new "problem". People were saying this long ago, and it was an excuse to justify killing or limiting reproduction of others. Quality of life actually got better, if you didn't notice.

No person has the right to decide whether another is fit to live, die, reproduce, or not reproduce. You have to be coming from the elitist mindset of "I know what's best for everyone, so that gives me the right to overrule their choices." Not even close.

It's a different story if you can use actual reason and evidence to convince people not to have kids rather than dictating that they "aren't allowed to", as if you have any say in it.
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Something like 8 billion. It'll be 20 billion in a few decades. Already in the U.S., the economy isn't growing enough to keep with the small population growth, and on top of that the population growth means that the cost of land/housing continues to go up, up, up. Then there's the increased commute times, increased competiveness of getting good jobs when almost all of the jobs being created are low-wage or part-time.
The problem is primarily in Africa:

Africa's population explosion will change humanity - Tech Insider

...what are you proposing?
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