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Old 08-02-2016, 02:39 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Lower Manhattan would be under water. It is not.
It was, up to Canal Street during the AGW-triggered Hurricane of 1821.
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Old 08-02-2016, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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35 years into the future. Can you see that?
No. 3.5 inches maybe. The current stoppage was the subject of discussion early in the 2000s. If it were a real factor we would be seeing some signs. We are not.
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Old 08-02-2016, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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It was, up to Canal Street during the AGW-triggered Hurricane of 1821.
Nah. flooding driven by high tides and wind. Not sea level.. Has happened periodically in the area for a hundred years.
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Old 08-02-2016, 03:04 PM
 
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No. 3.5 inches maybe. The current stoppage was the subject of discussion early in the 2000s. If it were a real factor we would be seeing some signs. We are not.
rate times time from starting when. https://goo.gl/maps/UJ9xKWwmCbL2 when this ice shelf brakes up then we will start to see rapid sea level rise. It hasn't there are several others that will contribute to much higher sea levels.


The dam hasn't broken so it will not flood when it does. That is your position.
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Old 08-02-2016, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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rate times time from starting when. https://goo.gl/maps/UJ9xKWwmCbL2 when this ice shelf brakes up then we will start to see rapid sea level rise. It hasn't there are several others that will contribute to much higher sea levels.


The dam hasn't broken so it will not flood when it does. That is your position.
I am quite sure a large meteorite or a huge volcanic eruption could swiftly modify the climate on earth. I shall not lose sleep over either.

Same thing with a sudden eradication of the artic ice shelf.
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Old 08-02-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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I am quite sure a large meteorite or a huge volcanic eruption could swiftly modify the climate on earth. I shall not lose sleep over either.

Same thing with a sudden eradication of the artic ice shelf.
Larsen A went suddenly, Larsen B went suddenly, Larsen C hasn't yet, Ross hasn't yet. But Ross is under a new stress that should speed up its collapse markedly. Worst case is 10 feet in 35 years.
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Old 08-02-2016, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Larsen A went suddenly, Larsen B went suddenly, Larsen C hasn't yet, Ross hasn't yet. But Ross is under a new stress that should speed up its collapse markedly. Worst case is 10 feet in 35 years.
Pure fantasy. But cite a reputable source of such a projection.
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Old 08-02-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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Pure fantasy. But cite a reputable source of such a projection.

RIMS 2016: Sea Level Rise Will Be Worse and Come Sooner


That good enough?
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Personal opinion of a non scientist admitting there is no data to support it. Actually the opinion is from Hansen who has no data but lots of opinion. From the source the official opinion is 3 feet by 2100. And that is bad enough


Try again. Get something real...
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:05 PM
 
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Personal opinion of a non scientist admitting there is no data to support it. Actually the opinion is from Hansen who has no data but lots of opinion. From the source the official opinion is 3 feet by 2100. And that is bad enough


Try again. Get something real...
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news...12/405089.htm#
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Margaret Davidson, NOAA’s senior advisor for coastal inundation and resilience science and services, and Michael Angelina, executive director of the Academy of Risk Management and Insurance, offered their take on climate change data in a conference session titled “Environmental Intelligence: Quantifying the Risks of Climate Change.”


Davidson said recent data that has been collected but has yet to be made official indicates sea levels could rise by roughly 3 meters or 9 feet by 2050-2060, far higher and quicker than current projections. Until now most projections have warned of seal level rise of up to 4 feet by 2100.
The government has told the insurance people to prepare for 10 foot (3 meter) sea level rise by 2050~2060. That is a government issued warning of a possible worst case outcome.


Watch the ice shelves in Antarctica. If they go we get it. If they don't then we don't.
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