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Lily, there are cultural differences between people. There are jobs dedicated to studying the differences. Cultural anthropologists is one such job.
Some cultures are very hard working, place much importance on education and good grades, for example.
That doesn't mean everyone in that culture does that, but that for the most part, those things are part of their value system.
There's a reason stereotypes exist - they often start out with some kernel of truth and get exaggerated after that.
I understand all that and I agree.
But, I don't think one minority group is doing better than the other. In order to say one is more "successful" than the other, we must first define "success."
For example, asian people in general (NOT all of them) look down on military service. I don't remember how many times I heard many asians say "If there is a war between the U.S. and (insert a country name here), my kids are going back to my home country." But black people are over represented in the military. How come nobody is talking about that?
Oh I read the article already and found it ridiculous. When you are ready, please respond to my first post because it seems that you may not have read the article yourself. Then again, perhaps you aren't familiar enough with the groups involved...or you share the same bias as the writer. Hopefully not the last option.
I don't think its a cultural thing as much as a matter of education/social class. According to the article, many of the Hindus (or Indian-Americans if you prefer) in the US were middle class and college educated, and therefore have high expectations for themselves and their families. A similar situation is the case of Koreans in the US, another very successful group. Koreans are known to have set up networks for aiding recent arrivals with no interest loans and business connections:
For another example, the wave of Cubans that immigrated in the 1960's were also middle class and college educated. They became financially and politically successful, helped make Miami a world-class City, and had a candidate in the GOP presidential nomination. Later waves of Cuban migrants in the 1980s had mixed results in the US
No, not all members of a culture are the same -- they all belong to different economic and social classes, which makes a huge difference when they come to the US.
But, I don't think one minority group is doing better than the other. In order to say one is more "successful" than the other, we must first define "success."
For example, asian people in general (NOT all of them) look down on military service. I don't remember how many times I heard many asians say "If there is a war between the U.S. and (insert a country name here), my kids are going back to my home country." But black people are over represented in the military. How come nobody is talking about that?
Because we haven't discussed differences in cultures before so nobody is talking about what you'd like to talk about?
And some groups certainly are doing better than others. How can you state that one isn't doing better than the other after reading so many threads here how black people often don't get the same opportunities and are being held back?
For the most part, Mexicans value hard work but not necessarily advanced formal education. Some Asian groups put high importance on both hard work and education and good grades, with most of their kids going on to college. You tend to find the same among those who are Jewish.
There's even a difference of cultures in Chicago between those who were raised on the south side and those raised on the north side. One group tended to be filled with blue collar families because that's where the steel mills were located, with less importance placed on education, and on the north side you'd find more white collar families.
I think someone from Boston could explain differences there, there, as well, among a number of other cities that are culturally split.
I don't know why you're averse to discussing this.
Because we haven't discussed differences in cultures before so nobody is talking about what you'd like to talk about?
And some groups certainly are doing better than others. How can you state that one isn't doing better than the other after reading so many threads here how black people often don't get the same opportunities and are being held back?
For the most part, Mexicans value hard work but not necessarily advanced formal education. Some Asian groups put high importance on both hard work and education and good grades, with most of their kids going on to college. You tend to find the same among those who are Jewish.
There's even a difference of cultures in Chicago between those who were raised on the south side and those raised on the north side. One group tended to be filled with blue collar families because that's where the steel mills were located, with less importance placed on education, and on the north side you'd find more white collar families.
I think someone from Boston could explain differences there, there, as well, among a number of other cities that are culturally split.
I don't know why you're averse to discussing this.
Because different people have different definition of "success". Very simple.
I don't want to "argue" with anybody here.
It is okay to be proud of one's culture, but it is also important to acknowledge we all have different struggles.
By the way, here is a breakdown of races in the military:
Race Profile of Active Duty Force Service% White% Minorities% Black% Other Army 73.9 % 26.1 % 21.5 % 4.6 % Navy 66.2 % 33.8 % 19.3 % 14.4 % Marine Corps 83.7 % 16.3 % 11.1 % 5.2 % Air Force 78.1 % 21.9 % 15.6 % 6.3 % Coast Guard 82 % 18 % 6.1 % 11.9 % Total74.6 %25.4 %17.8 %7.6 % Demographics of Active Duty U.S. Military – Statistic Brain
I'm not sure why you believe blacks are over-represented in the military, but that isn't the case.
That pasted horribly but the bottom line totals are
White people - 74.6%
Black people - 17.8%
Other - 7.6%
By the way, here is a breakdown of races in the military:
Race Profile of Active Duty Force Service% White% Minorities% Black% Other Army 73.9 % 26.1 % 21.5 % 4.6 % Navy 66.2 % 33.8 % 19.3 % 14.4 % Marine Corps 83.7 % 16.3 % 11.1 % 5.2 % Air Force 78.1 % 21.9 % 15.6 % 6.3 % Coast Guard 82 % 18 % 6.1 % 11.9 % Total74.6 %25.4 %17.8 %7.6 % Demographics of Active Duty U.S. Military – Statistic Brain
I'm not sure why you believe blacks are over-represented in the military, but that isn't the case.
and that is fine, I have read other articles suggesting blacks are over-represented in the military, that is all.
The bottom line is that financial well being, work ethic, etc. These are all aspects of success. Different people have different definition of success.
To me personally, a successful person is always a more interesting, well-rounded person.. That is all.
Well, numbers don't lie and I don't know what articles you've read but they're obviously based on a myth.
I realize different things make different people happy, but if he's done research finding that group has the highest per capita income in America, then it means they aren't struggling, and that, for most people, equals some amount of success.
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