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Old 09-19-2016, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70 View Post
Kaepernick's "protest" is based on lies and his refusal to accept the truth. He is simply now just provoking racism and violence against cops, which the rest of the BLM is also doing. He is making a claim on systemic police brutality against black men when there is absolutely not evidence that something like this exists. The vast majority of the cases BLM brings up have either been debunked (aka deadly force was fully justified) or there is no evidence to show police wrongdoing.

Kaepernick is helping to keep alive the anti-police atmosphere when the police are doing nothing wrong at all. The media shouldn't be idolizing someone like him, who refuses to believe the actual facts of the cases. Just like anyone who still says hands up don't shoot obviously doesn't know or doesn't care about the truth, that black witnesses confirmed how MIke Brown charged Officer Wilson like a raging bull, minutes after he had violently robbed a store.

Kaepernick, and now that lesbian soccer player in Seattle, say they want to draw attention to racism in America. Speaking as a minority, there is no widespread racism in America and there is no police brutality problem on a systematic level. Things like microaggressions, triggers, structural racism etc are the stuff cooked up by liberal academics in their own minds, like the ones at Mizzou. They embarass this country saying we are a racist nation when that is absolutely not true. And we are near the 8-year term of the most radically liberal president in history, with a Supreme Court that upheld gay marriage and socialist medicine and refuses to deport illegal aliens, and yet these people still say America embarasses them?
There is all kinds of evidence that systemic racism exists within some police departments.
The research and statistics are readily available.

If people can't find them, they aren't looking.
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Old 09-19-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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There is all kinds of evidence that systemic racism exists within some police departments.
The research and statistics are readily available.

If people can't find them, they aren't looking.
There's all kinds of evidence of police departments facing systemic problems from certain races. The research and statistics are readily available.
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Old 09-19-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: London
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I'm simply appalled by the liberal media's treatment of Ryan Lochte vs Colin Kaepernick's stories.

Now I don't approve for Lochte's behavior, but it was a simple case of some guy drinking too much and acting up, a temporary lapse of judgement. If anything, the Brazilians were also at least partly to blame for threatening him with a gun. (Imagine if a black had broken into a gas station and the white owner pulled a gun on him the BLM people will be crying racism probably). But the media loves a story like this about an "arrogant American" in a foreign country, especially a Third World nation like Brazil.

What Colin Kaepernick was FAR worse. He knowingly and repeatedly made a conscious decision under sound mind to disrespect the American flag and our anthem and show open contempt for our country and for our military and police officers. He promotes pure ignorance. Yes, literal ignorance and disregard for real FACTS. Ignorance in insisting on widespread police brualtiy and anti-black racism when that has been disproven. The BLM movement is hopelessly ignorant. Even the Obama DOJ, as activist as it is, cleared Darren Wilson in the Mike Brown case. Even Obama admits Wilson had NO CHOICE but to respond in the way he did in the situation that Mike Brown put him in.

The Baltimore police were acquitted by a black judge, and 3 of them were black. Far more blacks are killed by other black criminals and by illegal immigrants than by white cops. Yet Kaepernick insists on believing a false narrative and promoting division and disloyalty.

Now YES I believe in the First Amendment and he should not be legally compelled to stand for the anthem. He should not be arrested or go to prison for his beliefs. However, his team as a private entity has the RIGHT to fire him or ban him from playing for this.

Its liberal and Democrats who support firing people for flying Confederate flags on their own private property and firing CEOs who donated private money to pro-traditional marriage organizations. Yet the liberal media holds Kaepernick up like a hero while villainizing Lochte.
Oh boy. PLEASE join Kaepernick in taking a god damn seat.

You seriously think not standing up for a song during a football game (exercising a constitutional right) actually compares to someone causing trouble, being destructive, and disregarding the laws in another country?

Get over yourself.
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Old 09-19-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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I don't really agree with you, but see what you are saying. They are totally different situations; Lochte tech files a false report which is breaking the law: CK showed total disrespect for our country. What he did is more damaging. Both used poor judgment; I have to admit, I can forgive Lochte easier. At least he came clean.
kapernick is following his heart, and while i disagree with his manner of protest, i respect the stand he is taking.

the problem with lochte is that he broke the laws of another country, lied about it, and then left that country. if he truly wants to come clean, then what he needs to do is go back to brazil, and stand in front of their police officers, and tell the truth of what he and his companions did. and he needs to do it WITHOUT blaming anyone else, and without trying to pass the buck. and the he needs to accept what ever punishment the brazilians impose on him.
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Old 09-19-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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There is all kinds of evidence that systemic racism exists within some police departments.
The research and statistics are readily available.

If people can't find them, they aren't looking.
"There is all kinds of evidence that systemic racism exists within some police departments."

From biased sources.

I ALWAYS consider the source.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:15 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I am a person of color, and I truly don't believe there is systemic racism in America, and I truly don't believe there is widespread police brutality.

I don't know what it would take to get Kaepernick and the high school athletes joining him to be proud of America and feel our national anthem and flag is worthy of them honoring. We have the most left wing, liberal president in history with gay marriage and socialist medicine and the redistribution of wealth upheld by the Supreme Court, and the deportations of illegal aliens at an end thanks to Obama, yet they still think America's not liberal enough for them to love?

Many of the liberal European nations the left loves actually are far less tolerant of illegal immigration.
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:41 PM
 
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"it's not used now and hasn't been for a very long time."

Are you THIS ignorant?

Duh? The USE IT EVERY DAY in their name.

If it is no longer acceptable, why haven't they changed it.

They protest to get others to change their names.

The protest to get sates to remove ANYTHING about the civil war.

They are the perfect example of hypocrite there is.
Tell me how many people in this day and age call African Americans "colored". And who said it was unacceptable. I only said it wasn't used anymore. No not ignorant at all
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Old 09-19-2016, 10:06 PM
 
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A code does not equal a law. Get back to me when you realize that.
Let's take away your government holidays, laws that covers voting and elections, telecommunications, postal service the list is endless. If the US codes in place don't equal law then why are they in place? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text


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I am a person of color, and I truly don't believe there is systemic racism in America, and I truly don't believe there is widespread police brutality.

I don't know what it would take to get Kaepernick and the high school athletes joining him to be proud of America and feel our national anthem and flag is worthy of them honoring. We have the most left wing, liberal president in history with gay marriage and socialist medicine and the redistribution of wealth upheld by the Supreme Court, and the deportations of illegal aliens at an end thanks to Obama, yet they still think America's not liberal enough for them to love?

Many of the liberal European nations the left loves actually are far less tolerant of illegal immigration.
I read an article a friend shared on facebook from the Army Times. It is beautifully written.
https://www.armytimes.com/articles/f...d-for-the-flag
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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No one is trying to promote the confederacy.


Look up any other number of posters on here constantly defending and promoting the Confederacy and Secession.
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:15 PM
 
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Ryan Lochte actually won something.

Colin Kaepernick wants to deflect attention away from an outrageous salary for an athlete yet to prove himself on the big stage.

Kaep for all his posturing needs to now sit down and debate his views. Ben Shapiro or somebody like him would soundly make this second string QB wish he never did open his mouth.

Qst is where was Kaep before on the race issue, to suddenly make himself the self proclaimed racial conscious of the NFL.

Even the explanations for his actions just come across as so canned and unsurprisingly boring like his playing style.
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