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It's stupid that we let a few thousand US educated professionals go back to their home countries so that they can create competitions for us while importing millions of illegal immigrants who can't read dirt.
Get rid of the H1B. Or eliminate the process to where they can convert it to a green card. Temporary is temporary, do your three years then get out. But no displacement of US workers.
Again, barking at a leaf while completely ignoring the entire forest of 50 million illegals sucking our society dry.
OP, you really need to inform yourself more on this issue. H1B is legal, and regardless of your criteria, they are legal in the eyes of the law. H1B folks probably pay way more than they collect due to their temporary workers status: they pay taxes, pay into social security - although why it's required I've no idea, since they will never collect them on H1B visa; and if they lose their job, they can't collect unemployment because they have to leave the country within 30 days. Melanie Trump used H1B visa to work in the US legally as a model before she married Trump and became citizen. I bet your girlfriend used a work visa before she became a citizen too. H1B visa is widely use in Hollywood as well so your favorite British actor / actress might be a temporary foreign worker too using the same visa.
Illegals are the ones who sneak into this country without permit, or visa, and regardless of what you think, they are NOT the same as H1B workers.
I blame US employers' greed and american consumers' quest for "value for money" that drive this temporary worker programs to flourish. That and US kids who are too lazy to do hard work nowadays.
Yes, I know it is legal in the eyes of the law...H1B was created and pushed through to appease the establishment, which consists of all corporations around this country. It benefits only them, and certainly not the working class people of the United States. You can certainly call H1B legal, and the people who take part in it legal, but it is the most vile, contemptible, and degrading foundation of a commerce of termination of the morals and values that build these United States of America. And there is no shame...not one iota of some semblance of humiliation or dishonor to those who lost their lives to build this country. How a country treats it's own people is who they are.
I don't believe any working adult in the U.S. cares a hoot about if this law is legal or not, what it does, is throw the American working class under the bus, like Disney for Instance. They laid off all their American workers and hired people from other countries, and adding insult to injury, those Americans that were laid off, had to train the new people coming in to take their jobs. And this is happening all over our country.
This pathetic act is not only despicable, degrading and demoralizing, but, a disgrace to the American Public.
They don't care about the Americans and their families, if they're going to lose their homes, how they're going to put food int their mouths...the only thing they care about is making more money, at the cost of the American's who built this country.
You can call it legal if you like, what it is, is the rich man's way of throwing every American worker under the bus.
And as far as illegals are concerned, that is exactly what they are, illegal, and to call them anything else, is also disgraceful and unreasonable actions which are unacceptable to the American people. Laws may not always be fair, but they are there for a reason, and our government along with liberal thinking has been destroying any respect for our laws by allowing excessive disregard for the laws of this country.
And adding insult to injury, they take away from our vets, and constantly draw from our money, which is illegal, regarding our social security to give to people that are not working, and would prefer to sit back and live off of the American people.
President Theodore Roosevelt once said, "Ours is a government of liberty, by, through and under the law. No man is above it, and no man is below it."
The American commitment to the rule of law means that every citizen is governed by the same laws, applied through a fair and equal judicial process to resolve disputes peacefully.
Every Citizen. which means, Legal Citizen.
you cannot disobey laws, and not have a consequence for it, and we are just now feeling the consequences of this pathetic behavior.
Laws need to be strict to govern the people...they cannot be ignored, or disobeyed for convenience sake, b/c once you do that, the whole body falls apart.
If you have a cancer you cut it out....you don't ignore it, and allow it to grow and fester, feeding it, until it destroys the body.
That is what liberal thinking has done, it is destroying the actual culture of the American people...
You may not like it, you may disagree, but if you continue to ignore it, your children will suffer the consequences.
Laws are the natural fiber which binds a civilization/culture together. Liberal thinking, is destroying intellectual awareness, faith, social justice and crumbling the already stressed fiber of our being, which hold us together.
We've become a land of lawlessness...and create unfair laws, to justify the greed, status and power. We've become weak minded, and have lost the ability to problem solve. Unreasonable arrogance, is leading us down a dark path of all that will crumble our society. A society which does not speak the same language is one that will surely self destruct. We are becoming as the Roman's and will surely sink into an ocean of destruction. Self destruction....is what liberal thinking reaps.
It is festering our nation, infiltrating our legislative affairs and politics...creeping along throughout every single body of our world, like a vine that will not be put away, by insecticides. All for wealth, power and control.
They've sold us out...we are they're slaves, and you wonder why so many people are leaning towards Trump? Our government is corrupt...and we will not stand up to another 4 years of this despicable behavior. I'm all for, sending everyone home and starting all over again...it will take years to accomplish, but it's at least a start towards doing the right thing.
Our government, our corporations, have lost the one thing which holds society together...morals, for if one possesses morals, they possess respect, if one respects himself, he respects others...
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Again, barking at a leaf while completely ignoring the entire forest of 50 million illegals sucking our society dry.
exactly, if leaving illegals into this country wasn't enough, they also punched us down with the H1B program which allows corporations to lie and actually say there is no one available to take this position, so we're hiring someone from another country? Rubbish....Hell, we might as well avoid sending our kids to college, b/c there won't be any positions for them upon their graduations.
Most of the people of the U.S. do not even know this is going on....why? Because the media won't report on this. They won't show America what is really happening out there....but the police know...the police get calls to these areas where these illegals are living...this was going on 30 years ago...b/c the job I was working, we had a man working on that particular job, who came here from another country and he told fellow workers how he had 3 wives and I don't remember how many kids, all living in the same apartment.
Main Stream American has no idea....none. Not a clue.
.....can certainly call H1B legal, and the people who take part in it legal, but it is the most vile, contemptible, and degrading foundation of a commerce of termination of the morals and values that build these United States of America. And there is no shame...not one iota of some semblance of humiliation or dishonor to those who lost their lives to build this country. How a country treats it's own people is who they are.
I don't believe any working adult in the U.S. cares a hoot about if this law is legal or not, what it does, is throw the American working class under the bus
Sorry to say, but I rarely see anyone overreact like this. The outrage is starting to look fake. Just saying.....
I have worked with H1Bs for over 20 years, and have seen them help American companies succeed and grow to a point where they have expanded and hired tons of American workers.
You should be far more concerned about US corporations sending the jobs overseas, because we are talking about losing MILLIONS of jobs that way, not 65K people who actually work, live and pay taxes in US.
Sorry to say, but I rarely see anyone overreact like this. The outrage is starting to look fake. Just saying.....
I have worked with H1Bs for over 20 years, and have seen them help American companies succeed and grow to a point where they have expanded and hired tons of American workers.
You should be far more concerned about US corporations sending the jobs overseas, because we are talking about losing MILLIONS of jobs that way, not 65K people who actually work, live and pay taxes in US.
Finn, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, and within reason, this might work, as far as my outrage being fake, talk to those who have lost jobs to H1B workers...sorry pal....indeed, it helps American companies succeed and grow...the rich get richer...of course...crunching numbers even more and more. Once again, at whose expense.....it's an outrage.
I am far more concerned about everything that is going wrong in this country, including sending jobs overseas....believe me, it does not go without saying....
and please, don't try and discredit my beliefs by calling it fake....show a little decency by sharing your beliefs and thoughts without trying so desperately to discount someone else's beliefs.
American's unfortunately are being brain washed into abandoning their own beliefs....that is dirty pool and exactly what PC reaps...and is always taken to the extreme.
We're being discredited by name calling, which is nothing more than a propaganda device attaching negative attributes to who I am, b/c you feel like an opponent or who is threatened. Sorry Charlie, doesn't work anymore.
Sensitive issue? Yes, it most certainly is, and I won't have the soul of my characteristics stomped down simply b/c you or anyone else disagrees. It's ok to discuss and disagree, but not ok to discredit someone for believing differently. This name calling is used to belittle someone...and used to win a disagreement, like little 3rd graders.
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This problem you see will be resolved in the Congress. The Congress is controlled by Republicans.
If it is the Republicans who are steamed at the establishment, they will stop it.
While the congressmen gets on tv to get the population all ginned up fighting each other, calling names, etc. they go about doing nothing that would upset the wonderful civic minded American businessman who is ruining the labor market.
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