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This was a perfect commercial as to why there should not be open carry by the way.
No it is not! All he had to do is drop his weapon or never touch it in the first place. He would still be alive - like I am still alive when I had been stopped years ago with a loaded weapon in my possession. There is a possibility that he could have legal problems; but, when you're alive, you can hire lawyers. You can also live a full life; it's your choice.
Past behavior is a strong indicator of future behavior. It lends credence the police reporting of events and and helps to alleviate some of the "why would he act that way" questions. The simple answer is that he has a long history of making bad decisions that "normal" people simply wouldn't make.
There is no evidence that Mr. Scott WAS open carrying. In fact, the presence of the ankle holster suggests the exact opposite - that he was CONCEALED carrying that pistol. Now you may be thinking - "But, hooligan, if it was concealed, how did the police see it?". That is also explained by him having the gun in his hand, not in the holster, when he exited the truck. If the gun is in an ankle holster, covered by his pants leg, the cops wouldn't be shouting "Drop the gun!".
To my knowledge the only suggesting open carry is pknopp, maybe one other poster?
Yes I can understand caution if they were aware of his entire prior history.
According to the police reports they saw the gun on the first trip, how did they see it since he was in the car?
No it is not! All he had to do is drop his weapon or never touch it in the first place. He would still be alive - like I am still alive when I had been stopped years ago with a loaded weapon in my possession. There is a possibility that he could have legal problems; but, when you're alive, you can hire lawyers. You can also live a full life; it's your choice.
I would not want to be a police officer responsible for figuring out the intentions of someone with a gun, according to Indiana law you don't even have to listen to the police requests to disarm if you feel there is reasonable cause to retain a weapon.
Even though he refused to drop the gun but in other circumstances I could imagine a cop making a mistake when someone exits a car with a gun in hand. Pretty low risk - reward when it comes to having a gun in hand when dealing with police.
According to the police reports they saw the gun on the first trip, how did they see it since he was in the car?
They saw him smoking weed in his car and decided they had more important things to worry about. But then they saw it in his hands and regrouped to investigate him. If he hadn't acted so foolishly (I'll concede that his brain injury, medication and/or stoned condition might have affected his judgement) he would have faced a minor marijuana charge and a gun charge.
Play along for a minute and accept as truth that the cops did see him rolling a blunt and with a gun. What would you want cops in your town to do ? Drive away, ignore it, or question the driver about the activity ?
[btw, worse drugs than marijuana can be rolled in a blunt.]
I would not want to be a police officer responsible for figuring out the intentions of someone with a gun, according to Indiana law you don't even have to listen to the police requests to disarm if you feel there is reasonable cause to retain a weapon.
Even though he refused to drop the gun but in other circumstances I could imagine a cop making a mistake when someone exits a car with a gun in hand. Pretty low risk - reward when it comes to having a gun in hand when dealing with police.
Your boss, in one of these situations, is the police officer. Whatever screwy laws they have in other states; I would still consider myself lucky if I had a verbal command to drop my weapon and I would comply. This has been a long thread. I have shown pictures of how trained quick draw experts can take out five balloons in less than one second and another posted that a self-defense trainer points out that you are dead if you allow the perpetrator to turn their attention in your direction.
All of the speculation in this thread has been speculation. We do have better evidence/information than when we started. More will eventually surface. But we were not there and our survival would not necessarily be a given.
On the surface, as of right now; it looks as if the protestors had nothing to protest. We have to move away from this 'lynch mob' mentality - which I thought we did many years ago. We already have a second Black man shot by a Black protestor - doesn't his life matter?
And now we have more truth...his baby momma had filed a tro on him ..in it she states he carries a black 9mm
Surprise surprise
Lol yes it's true , but that won't matter to the rioters , they beileve only what they want to , wife could have even staged the whole thing to get rid of him and make money same time
This guy shouldn't have even been out on the street.
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