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Old 10-17-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Are you kidding, original poster? Workers would be lining up and camping out for weeks to apply for a job before the doors to a new manufacturing facility even opened.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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When mom & dad dies and the assets are distributed to the kids... Starvation has a way of acting as a motivator.

When my dad died, my sister had to bust a move and get off her ass.
A lot of people will just freeload off someone else when they lose their source. Now I see a lot of young men living off of women, either family members like older sisters, or girlfriends who totally support them. Women can usually find some sucker to support them too, freeloading is a skill.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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Do you really think that the average Millennial with a liberal arts degree working at Starbucks in a big city is going to move to Dayton, OH for a $50/hr blue collar job?

I would cut peoples welfare if they refused to relocate to where the work is needed. Why should be only have to accept a job if it is within 5 miles of where they were born or live????
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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We have lots of manufacturing jobs that people want. When a new automobile factory is built it's not like they have to bring in foreigners to work there, they get far more applications than positions.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:42 AM
 
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The average lawyer salary is $133k/yr, which is less than $100/hr (unless they're somehow working part-time at a $100/hr rate), it takes more than just "a few years" to get there, and they start out with $150,000+ in debt. Your argument also makes the false assumption that the fresh-out-of-law-school lawyer is more motivated and has more room for income growth than the tradesman. In fact, the field of Law is known to be a pyramid structure where only a few make it to the level of 6 figures. Remember that with how averages are calculated, if you have 1 person making $250k/yr and 2 people making $40k/yr, the average salary of that group is $110k/yr.

For that average of $133k per year, I wonder how many hours of work is involved ? Are those 40 hour work weeks or 80 ?
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:51 AM
 
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Um, I would disagree with that, I counsel plenty of Millennial kids especially young men who would want to work such manufacturing jobs. Good with their hands and take pride in their work. More of this "jobs Americans won't do" BS used to justify sending Americna jobs out.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:58 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Of course they will. You will have FAR fewer takers in Alpine NJ than Dover NJ. Now, the worst of the worst jobs like BOF platform, or a coke oven, probably not but mfg is tending toward assembly types, you will have plenty of takers, especially if its Dayton Ohio at say a base of 16 bucks an hour. Seattle is a cool as hell town, and an awful place to raise a family on 16 bucks an hour.
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Old 10-17-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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I still think higher education is very important for too many people to move away from it.

Our local solutions include a low cost university, and a community college offering many trades.
I'm not saying higher education isn't important - I think it's critical. My point is that society has done one or two generations a huge disservice by pointing almost all kids towards academic higher education instead of vocational higher education.

Jobs requiring a college degree are much easier to outsource than a plumber, HVAC technician or mechanic. How many parents know that quality heavy diesel mechanics are almost certain to be earning 6 figures? And yet those positions are hard to fill.
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Old 10-17-2016, 10:00 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I would cut peoples welfare if they refused to relocate to where the work is needed. Why should be only have to accept a job if it is within 5 miles of where they were born or live????
You wont like the answer but its simple. For many, grandma watches the kids for free. Grandma aint moving anywhere. I know MANY working class families.
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Old 10-17-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Who would buy American products?

An "All-American" made iPhone would cost around $2,000.

https://www.marketplace.org/2014/05/...an-iphone-cost

People complain about manufacturing jobs leaving the U.S., but then say they prefer lower prices to paying a premium for "Made in America" items. You can't have it both ways.

Poll: Americans prefer low prices to items 'Made in the USA' - Chicago Tribune
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