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Listen to me? Hell, if you don't like it, put me on ignore.
I don't need your input on how to run my life. More proof you like big government, you're just like them.
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I gives less than a damn.
I don't care how feel, one way or the other.
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It ain't like I like you anymore than you like me.
It's not about me or you. It's about the content of the post. Content, like policy, matters.
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So whatever dude.
Moreover, you turned down a union job and you live in Texas? Nonsense. No way. It never happened.
Although I got here as fast as I could, I haven't lived in Texas all my life. That thought, which didn't occur to you, doesn't surprise me one iota.
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Besides, with the exception of a tiny few employers, being union in Texas is practically meaningless. You guy's wages are mostly garbage anyway. After the pickup payment and the trailer mortgage, ain't much left. But then, that's the Southern Dream so what use would you have for a union anyway?
Now see, this is your bigotry showing again. Always best to know whom one is dealing with.
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So...bleh..
ouch you really got me there.
to review.
Joe the plumber, who comes off as a bit of a tool, took advantage of a situation.
He isn't a conservative.
He, like McCain, were laughed at on their bromance.
You calling someone out for being hypocritical, true or not, yet continue to ignore Obama being a hypocrite, hurts your posts credibility.
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This is rich! Went out and got himself a job at Chrysler...and of course, he claims that he "had to" join the union (ignoring the fact that he could've worked elsewhere) to take the job!
I thought he was a plumber....or something like a plumber. I knew that guy was a phony right from the beginning.
He's so emblematic of how lame our political culture is nowadays.
BTW...the story is a few years old, but I'd never heard about it.
What...there's no work for people with plumbing skills?
Sure, if their last name is Gonzalez there are plenty of sub-out jobs.
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to review.
Joe the plumber, who comes off as a bit of a tool, took advantage of a situation.
He isn't a conservative.
He, like McCain, were laughed at on their bromance.
You calling someone out for being hypocritical, true or not, yet continue to ignore Obama being a hypocrite, hurts your posts credibility.
Hypocrisy to dd is a badge to wear, yet instantly and insanely calls out any drip of it if they are even remotely conservative.
Take it from a retired contractor, PVC is just as good (in most instances) as iron, copper, and clay. It can also be replaced after a failure so much easier and cheaply.
On this, I posted from local perspective. There are a lot of jobs open in Toledo and so if someone like you, who needs work to support a family but doesn't want to join a union, you can find a non-union job. I have other family members who don't work union jobs and they like their jobs and they are paid well. I have 3 brothers, 2 of them work for UAW outfits and one works a non-union job. He makes less than the union brothers per hour but it works out for him since he works more hours and gets more overtime.
So old Joe could have just gone to the place my little brother works and get a job and would not have to pay to be in the union. There are plenty of places that pay decently around here for unskilled production workers. However, all of them have a lower hourly rate than the union places.
IMO it is hypocritical to use your family as an excuse to take a position that pays more in regards to a union position and then claim not to support unions as a whole.
And I understood what you said in tha tyou don't like certain "union bosses." FWIW, I don't like everything about unions (I don't like everything about anything lol) but I both respect and support unions because they actually do provide a great benefit to employees/members and especially so in regards to benefits and pay scale. Focusing on that is more important IMO than focusing on their negatives because even with their negatives, in this area, they provide a huge incentive for working for those organizations.
I'll also note that it is a rather long process to get hired at Chrysler. You have to have a medical exam, a drug screen, take a written test and come in for at least 2 interviews. It can take 3 months unless you know someone in the union who can pull some strings (which we have in our family but even then it can take about a month and unless you pass the tests, you won't go onto the next level). It would have been quicker for him, if his family needed to be supported to just go to a temp service and get a job making $13 an hour. You can get one in a day around here if you are wiling to work and don't use drugs. And FWIW Chrysler actually does hire from temp services and will start employees at $13 an hour too, but they still have to go through the other screenings/tests.
Exactly. It ain't like Chrysler went door to door looking for workers. He sought out a union job because he knew it was better than what he was already doing.
Even without a plumbers license, if he's skilled, he can find another plumber to work under. Non union of course, but I thought he was so adamant about how unions suck.
These conservatives have a million different excuses for this phony idiot.
Take it from a retired contractor, PVC is just as good (in most instances) as iron, copper, and clay. It can also be replaced after a failure so much easier and cheaply.
Yeah that's why they want to keep it out.
Had similar issue with computerizing ship manifests with dock workers. Too many union reps and politicians had family members in Cush 100k jobs typing them manually into system.
I'm happy for 'Joe the Plumber'...hope he is involved in building my Hellcat.
Huh? The LX platform cars are built at the Canadian plant in Brampton. They didn't tell you where it was being built when you ordered it?
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