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no, I'm sorry but no, Florida has had problems twice now...
That's Florida's problem.
Bush faced the same problems in Florida that Gore faced.
But, Gore and the Dems wanted to recount only votes in heavily Democratic areas while not recounting in heavy Republican areas and while disqualifying military absentee ballots (which traditionally went to Republican candidates).
If you cannot understand why that is fundamentally unfair, then there is no use further discussing this with you.
I think what is done is done. I don't live in revisionist history and other than the Iraq War and the economic issues later on in his presidency, I didn't hate GW Bush either.
I think what is done is done. I don't live in revisionist history and other than the Iraq War and the economic issues later on in his presidency, I didn't hate GW Bush either.
Bush was wrong on Iraq. The buck stops with him on that, and it is a legitimate problem that will always tarnish his legacy.
The financial problem was not his. The government had set up horrible rules over decades that caused that financial collapse. As a matter of fact, Bush was one of the few sounding the alarm and attempting to make changes. Some of the Democrats that stood in his way essentially called him a racist because of it.
Read the Federalist Papers (No. 10) to understand why we do not trust a pure democracy and why our founders wisely established the US as a Republic.
I am well aware of Federalist No. 10. If you want to debate the anachronism of the electoral college go create another thread on that topic. There have been many on C-D.
Find me a Democrat who believes that turning our problems over to the workings of the private sector, and an open economy, and (s)he'll have my enthusiastic support.
But as recently proven by the furthest Left-leaning Democratic convention in history, the Democrats seldom propose any remedy that doesn't increase bureaucratic influence in our daily lives, and a higher tax burden to support their ever-expanding pipe dreams. (And of course, it has to be centrally-administered -- too much chance the locals might try to "weed out" the perpetually-indolent who are a big part of the Democrats' core clientele).
So unless the Republican proves to be an overt racist along the lines of David Duke, or a Bible-thumper along the lines of Rick Santorum, any Democrat is automatically eliminated from consideration here.
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The right wing paranoid dislike of Al Gore notwithstanding, a sober, honest review of his record reveals he had good judgement:
Persian Gulf War 1991: Senator Al Gore was one of the very few Democrats to vote in favor of giving then President Bush (Senior) the authorization to use force to remove Iraqi forces from Kuwait. Despite what some right wingers want to say about Gore, as a Senator he as a "raging moderate" and was very capable of making hard choices that bucked his own party.
Iraq War (2003): While the nation was beating the drums of war in the aftermath of 9/11, former Vice President Al Gore very wisely (and bravely) said no to this very misguided war. This fact alone would have made him a better President than the scarecrow Mr. Bush.
I am not one to blame Bush for everything that went wrong on his watch but the misadventure in Iraq was easily one of the biggest blunders of foreign policy in the nation's history. Bush really, really ph-ucked up.
Yep, as Al said, "Elections have consequences", and that election had dire consequences. Thinking people (a minority of Americans) knew that election was stolen, just like we knew that Iraq posed zero threat to the United States.
Even though a tiny majority of Americans chose Al Gore as President, it was not enough to overcome the voter fraud pre-planned in Florida.
Yup , we all know that Gore was trying like heck to steal the election from Bush.
I voted for Mr. Gore. However, I accepted his loss for two reasons:
One, the Florida Secretary of State certified the vote, as per Florida law, after several re-counts. To me, as a lawyer and one that believes in following the rule of law, said certification ended the matter (it was her certification that was appealed, reversed by the Florida Supreme Court, with that ruling reversed by the US Supreme Court).
Two, I recognized that, heck, Mr. Gore failed to win his home state of Tennessee. If he had won his home state, then I would have felt somewhat bad on his account. However, he did not, and Mr. Bush won Florida by some 500 votes, and there it was.
There`s no shame in losing in a former traitor slave state whether you live there or not. You`re not making any sense at all with that remark.
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