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Old 05-18-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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Under GW Bush well over a million people were killed. Regardless of any comparison, GW Bush well deserves the title of top murderer. Most of those deaths occurred in Iraq and if you will remember the cause to go to war was because of "weapons of mass destruction." However, none were ever found but that didn't stop GW Bush. No sir, he went right on killing innocent civilians under the guise of fighting for their freedom. Saddam Hussein was a horrible leader but even he couldn't come close to the murderer GW Bush.
Iraq was a false flag war and we should well remember the American lives lost there. Currently the war hawks have come together for another false flag attack that will be followed by a useless war with Iran. How many innocent people must die before the American people rise up to stop this insanity?

https://web.mit.edu/humancostiraq/HO...D,%20BUSH.html
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Old 05-18-2019, 02:05 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You can add Obama and Hillary to the list of war mongers, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc.
And you can add Bill Clinton. He was the one who ordered an attack on Iraq 1998 and also signed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998 which precipitated the US invasion of Iraq to depose Saddam Hussein, which we did. Iraq liberated.
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And you can bet Hillary will continue the proud tradition of meddling into middle eastern affairs, she may even get us into a shooting war with Russia.

bill
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Old 05-18-2019, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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You dug up a zombie thread only to whine about a dead link and then demand OP find the original survey? CD posters are getting lazy. I dug up the original annual survey (there have been 2 since) for you as my education and internet skills aren’t lacking.

https://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/Socialism.pdf

Here’s the 2018 annual report.

https://www.victimsofcommunism.org/2018-annual-report
the OP still lied.

this isnt left vs right.

When you learn about WW2 in high school, its mostly about Germany and what they did. Not much mention of Japan between Pearl Harbor and dropping the bomb.

Russia only gets mentioned as an ally and thats pretty much it. Where as Iraq and Afghanistan are recent history and gets more detail. My history and PE teachers were both Vets(active duty at the time they were teaching me) in 2001 and 2003

my PE teacher even thought he was going to Afganistan when our school held a rally for him, but instead went to Iraq.

I think its just fresher in peoples minds.
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Old 05-18-2019, 02:26 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You are comparing apples to oranges with this line of rational.in 1998 Bill sent air power to Iraq and neutralized any conceivable threat Saddam posed, end of story.in 2003 George Bush knowing Saddam had no more WMD and a no fly zone covering Iraq decided to invade the country with 100000+ American troops culminating in a war that lasted 10 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
How did he know that? Clapper told him Iraq was hiding them in Syria, after Syria was tipped off by Dem Senator Rockefeller that: "it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq.

A stroll down memory lane...
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"The director [Clapper] of a top American spy agency said Tuesday that he believed that material from Iraq's illicit weapons program had been transported into Syria and perhaps other countries as part of an effort by the Iraqis to disperse and destroy evidence immediately before the recent war.
THE STRUGGLE FOR IRAQ - WEAPONS SEARCH - Iraqis Removed Arms Material, U.S. Intelligence Agency Director Says - NYTimes.com

Clapper said satellite imagery showing a heavy flow of traffic from Iraq into Syria, just before the American invasion in March, led him to believe that illicit weapons material ''unquestionably'' had been moved out of Iraq. Clapper was speaking in his then capacity as the Director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency.
https://www.nga.mil/Pages/default.aspx

Obama subsequently promoted Clapper to Director of National Intelligence.

And exactly how would Iraq know to move its illicit weapons right before the invasion? Answer: The treasonous stunt Democrat Senator Rockefeller pulled that prompted Iraq to move the weapons:
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Rockefeller (D-WV): "I took a trip by myself in January of 2002 to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and I told each of the heads of state that it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq, that that was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11."
Transcript: Senators Roberts, Rockefeller

(Oh, and by the way... Rockefeller voted FOR the Iraq War.)

Now look at how all this has played out since then.

How is any of this not treason?
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Old 05-18-2019, 03:03 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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And what in the hell was Dem Senator Dianne Feinstein doing Thursday when she leapfrogged the State Dept and the Trump Admin and talked on the phone with Iran's Foreign Minister, Javad Zarif. She has NO authority whatsoever to negotiate anything with Iran on behalf of the US.

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"SPOTTED: SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D-Calif.), who sits on the Senate Intelligence Committee, walking around the Capitol with her iPhone screen facing outward in full view, and Javad Zarif’s contact page on the screen. Zarif is the name of Iran’s foreign minister."
https://www.politico.com/newsletters...told-us-437020
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Old 05-18-2019, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Central Washington
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Under GW Bush well over a million people were killed. Regardless of any comparison, GW Bush well deserves the title of top murderer. Most of those deaths occurred in Iraq and if you will remember the cause to go to war was because of "weapons of mass destruction." However, none were ever found but that didn't stop GW Bush. No sir, he went right on killing innocent civilians under the guise of fighting for their freedom. Saddam Hussein was a horrible leader but even he couldn't come close to the murderer GW Bush.
Iraq was a false flag war and we should well remember the American lives lost there. Currently the war hawks have come together for another false flag attack that will be followed by a useless war with Iran. How many innocent people must die before the American people rise up to stop this insanity?

https://web.mit.edu/humancostiraq/HO...D,%20BUSH.html
If Bush gets top billing, where do the likes of mao, Stalin, Hitler, Lenin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and the others fit in?
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Old 05-18-2019, 05:59 PM
 
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What have the Right-wingers been brainwashing Millennials with in regards to this?
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:00 PM
 
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What have the Right-wingers been brainwashing Millennials with in regards to this?

Baby boomers think they're stupid and soft, and need to get off their lawns.
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:20 PM
 
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That seems to be a fake article. Try to find the survey the article refers to. There's a link to it. A link that doesn't exist. Or maybe the survey was removed because it's false.

Having said that, if more millennials believe that, I'd say that shows their lack of education and internet skills, since that information is easily obtained on the internet, and they certainly weren't taught that in school. I don't know about the U.K, which is the country that article is for, but in the U.S., liberals aren't telling millennials or anyone else that Bush killed more people than Stalin. That's as ridiculous an accusation against liberals as it is a statement. Only an idiot would believe it, in the first place. The liberals don't need to traffic in outright lies or conspiracy theories, because the truth is so powerful in itself.
While the OP's premise is bogus and as you note pretty much is just an indictment of youth not knowing whom Stalin was or trolling the poll, it's an article from before the 2016 presidential election.

Not sure why you're calling it a fake article just because it has an old dead link.

Lastly, we get threads here almost daily where the far right and far left both traffic in outright lies and conspiracy theories. If you've not noticed this, or only recognize one type of those, we just had a thread about Russian hacks of voter rolls where the OP of that thread tried to pass it off as hacking the vote totals.
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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I'm no fan of George Bush but to believe something like that is just outrageous!!! This is why even though Donald Trump may win the presidency. Its not going to matter if we don't win back our culture that includes education, the main street media and pop culture. Otherwise the country will be finished.


Millennials believe George W Bush killed more people than Stalin, finds survey | The Independent
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What are you babbling about? Perhaps you need to read your own links first:
My best guess is that the OP just returned from a leave-of-absence and this tossed-salad of words is what first bubbled to the top.
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