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Just some things to think about in terms of the future of the two parties:
A) Clinton will win, because Trump is the most unpopular person ever to be a major candidate. The problem is, Clinton is the second most unpopular candidate. In many polls over 60% of the electorate think that she is dishonest. Kasich or Rubio would have won by 5-15 points. Her presidency is going to be a disaster, especially since there is a recession due.
B) The Bernie Sanders insurgency show that indeed, the Dems have internal stuggles in their party that rival that of the GOP. In fact, it can be said that we are watching a major political re-alignment. Sanders and Trump are two sides of a coin.
C) Because of GOP dominance down ballot, the Dems have no bullpen. It is their party that is in danger of extinction. Look at the age of the alternative candidates: Elizabeth Waren, Joe Biden, Bernie Saners. They aren't going to be around next time.
D) As we speak, the GOP has the Senate, owns the house, has over 3/5 of governorships, and dominates twice as many state legislatures? The Republican party has a monopoly (legislatures and governorships) in 23 states.
E) This is not going to change much, or with much permanency. The Dems won't win the House. They may, or may not, take the Senate by a narrrow margin. This of course will be reversed in the next midterms. In any event, Clinton will not have a congress that she can work with.
F) The Trump movement is not the end of a thing, but the beggining. Like it or not, freedom of speech is being restored to this country, and the dam of Orwellian brainwashing that makes voters believe that they are forced to let everyone and anyone into this country has broken and will be washed away, never to be rebuilt.
G) Yes, the Dems are going to stack the Supreme Court. And so what? What left is there to loose?
H) Obamacare. 'Nuff said.
I) Worldwide trends are agaisnt international socialism. You need looked no further than the division and ongoing collpase of Europe.
Just some things to think about in terms of the future of the two parties:
A) Clinton will win, because Trump is the most unpopular person ever to be a major candidate. The problem is, Clinton is the second most unpopular candidate. In many polls over 60% of the electorate think that she is dishonest. Kasich or Rubio would have won by 5-15 points. Her presidency is going to be a disaster, especially since there is a recession due.
B) The Bernie Sanders insurgency show that indeed, the Dems have internal stuggles in their party that rival that of the GOP. In fact, it can be said that we are watching a major political re-alignment. Sanders and Trump are two sides of a coin.
C) Because of GOP dominance down ballot, the Dems have no bullpen. It is their party that is in danger of extinction. Look at the age of the alternative candidates: Elizabeth Waren, Joe Biden, Bernie Saners. They aren't going to be around next time.
D) As we speak, the GOP has the Senate, owns the house, has over 3/5 of governorships, and dominates twice as many state legislatures? The Republican party has a monopoly (legislatures and governorships) in 23 states.
E) This is not going to change much, or with much permanency. The Dems won't win the House. They may, or may not, take the Senate by a narrrow margin. This of course will be reversed in the next midterms. In any event, Clinton will not have a congress that she can work with.
F) The Trump movement is not the end of a thing, but the beggining. Like it or not, freedom of speech is being restored to this country, and the dam of Orwellian brainwashing that makes voters believe that they are forced to let everyone and anyone into this country has broken and will be washed away, never to be rebuilt.
G) Yes, the Dems are going to stack the Supreme Court. And so what? What left is there to loose?
H) Obamacare. 'Nuff said.
I) Worldwide trends are agaisnt international socialism. You need looked no further than the division and ongoing collpase of Europe.
So there it is.
A) Most Democrats I know are pretty aware of this. Most are voting for Hillary out of necessity. Just this weekend, I had a conversation with someone who is very much a Democrat who said they'd vote Jeb Bush over Clinton, but because it's Trump, they can't vote for someone else. Don't flatter yourself with this point; it's hardly revealing some hidden truth.
B) Again, this isn't news to anyone. Many are aware of what Bernie and Trump represent, which is both changing political demographics and general dissatisfaction with the two party system.
C) I don't think that's how it works. Liberals aren't any less relevant than they've ever been. Perhaps dissatisfaction with Obama had led to a temporary spike in conservative popularity, but I'd argue that's exactly how Obama initially got elected.
D) The GOP is likely to lose the Senate. The GOP usually does have more power at local levels, the reason for this is smaller communities, which are overwhelmingly conservative, can influence a local election far easier than a national one. This is not a new trend, and it was just as true when Obama took office, as far as I know. This is my response to point E as well.
F) Keep telling yourself that. Trump does not represent free speech. He silences any and all criticism he gets, hardly addressing it. He never speaks of the failure of a two party system, which is far more liberating than talking about immigration, of which there is probably more agreement than disagreement. Ask voters if they think illegal immigration is a good thing, most will say no. Liberals and conservatives may disagree on when it's ok to deport, but I sincerely doubt there's much disagreement on the need for better border security and immigration reform. The reason Trump doesn't get much support from the left is because of his needlessly divisive rhetoric, which he uses because he knows that will make headlines.
G) I have nothing to say to this one.
H) Not " 'nuff said" at all. Despite many criticisms, Obamacare isn't necessarily something people want to lose. They want it reformed, many having support for a single payer system or public option. You're project or intentionally misleading. Obamacare may be unpopular but this doesn't mean conservative solutions are winning this battle. Not yet.
I) I wouldn't actually describe Europe as collapsing, and even if you could, socialism ins't necessarily the reason. Weak leadership and bizarre immigration standards, as well as general public unrest, are more problematic than fiscal issues. Most European countries would be doing fine if the EU was better managed. Most are a pretty reasonable mix of capitalist and socialist systems anyway, which is always the case. A purely capitalist society has never existed, and probably never should. Even the founding fathers placed limitations on big business and free trade, this of course coming from their fear of authority. To them, a monopolized corporation is no more dangerous to the people than an authoritarian government. This is something many on the left and right seem to forget.
Just some things to think about in terms of the future of the two parties:
A) Clinton will win, because Trump is the most unpopular person ever to be a major candidate. The problem is, Clinton is the second most unpopular candidate. In many polls over 60% of the electorate think that she is dishonest. Kasich or Rubio would have won by 5-15 points. Her presidency is going to be a disaster, especially since there is a recession due.
B) The Bernie Sanders insurgency show that indeed, the Dems have internal stuggles in their party that rival that of the GOP. In fact, it can be said that we are watching a major political re-alignment. Sanders and Trump are two sides of a coin.
C) Because of GOP dominance down ballot, the Dems have no bullpen. It is their party that is in danger of extinction. Look at the age of the alternative candidates: Elizabeth Waren, Joe Biden, Bernie Saners. They aren't going to be around next time.
D) As we speak, the GOP has the Senate, owns the house, has over 3/5 of governorships, and dominates twice as many state legislatures? The Republican party has a monopoly (legislatures and governorships) in 23 states.
E) This is not going to change much, or with much permanency. The Dems won't win the House. They may, or may not, take the Senate by a narrrow margin. This of course will be reversed in the next midterms. In any event, Clinton will not have a congress that she can work with.
F) The Trump movement is not the end of a thing, but the beggining. Like it or not, freedom of speech is being restored to this country, and the dam of Orwellian brainwashing that makes voters believe that they are forced to let everyone and anyone into this country has broken and will be washed away, never to be rebuilt.
G) Yes, the Dems are going to stack the Supreme Court. And so what? What left is there to loose?
H) Obamacare. 'Nuff said.
I) Worldwide trends are agaisnt international socialism. You need looked no further than the division and ongoing collpase of Europe.
So there it is.
No mention at all of the FBI investigation which pretty much deems your entire post irrelevant.
Where have you been?
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Originally Posted by FoxinaBox
nope. Conservatism is the one that is dying. Obama is loved and Hillary is going to be our next president
Every time public policy polling is done without indicating to the respondents which party might support those policies, Americans overwhelmingly select liberal policies. It's not even close. And millennials are the most liberal generation since the Greatest Generation (and far less racist to boot). Once the Baby Boomers die, Conservatism is over.
The highly educated support Democrats, the growing Hispanic and Asian populations support Democrats, millennials by and large support democrats
Why can't Republicans admit that Conservatism is dying? Any election that gets more than old white men to the pols will result in a Democratic victory. Simple as that
Nice try, but as we speak, the FBI and Wikileaks are in the process of exposing the corruption from Obama and Clinton, all the way down. The American people place trustworthiness over partisan politics and you will see that next Tuesday.
hey repubs...wait til after the election to sound like sore losers.
:d
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