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Old 10-31-2016, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Nonsense.

The people that we call "hispanic" today have always for all of american history been considered white. Look at any historical record. They were not minorities before. The concept that they are minorities is completely new.

Try to think about it rationally: Why would being a Spanish descendant or having a Spanish surname make somebody a minority? What sense does that make? Its a political fabrication.
Because most people in the US with spanish surnames are not white. They are mixed to various degrees. Lots of non-european ancestry in there.
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:16 PM
 
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The whole concept of the minority is just a liberal identity group politics scheme.
No. The sin of slavery and decades of legal discrimination and exclusion is why black people are minorities. That's not fake identity politics. That actually happened. History made black people minorities.

The concept that Spanish speakers are minorities is totally fake. Groups of people sat down, planned it out and invented the concept one day in the 70s.
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:22 PM
 
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No. The sin of slavery and decades of legal discrimination and exclusion is why black people are minorities. That's not fake identity politics. That actually happened. History made black people minorities.

The concept that Spanish speakers are minorities is totally fake. Groups of people sat down, planned it out and invented the concept one day in the 70s.
Well I think that is an over simplification and scapegoating whites but I'm not going to debate it here. The whole civil rights movement was a fake out and was about identity group politics.
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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Because most people in the US with spanish surnames are not white. They are mixed to various degrees. Lots of non-european ancestry in there.
As I said most of them are tri-racial and most of the Mexicans and latin Americans in the US are newer arrivals of probably majority mixed Indian ancestry not of our native tribes and very little European.

The US use to have more European-mixed latin Americans but that's not what we've been getting much of the past few decades.
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:36 PM
 
Location: SE PA via North jerz
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Nonsense.

The people that we call "hispanic" today have always for all of american history been considered white. Look at any historical record. They were not minorities before. The concept that they are minorities is completely new.

Try to think about it rationally: Why would being a Spanish descendant or having a Spanish surname make somebody a minority? What sense does that make? Its a political fabrication.
You must be mentally special bro

If most Puerto Ricans and Dominicans (in their countries and in the US) are mulatto mix ( black and white).
Most Mexicans and Central Americans are a mestizo mix (nativ american and white). And these good groups make up the majority of Hispanics in the United States, how do u come up wit the conclusion that they are a mostly white group (im talking physical genetics and socioeconomics not brain washed self identification on the census). they are mostly mixed .

Only the US Cubans and some south american groups are white dominated.
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:36 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Nonsense.

The people that we call "hispanic" today have always for all of american history been considered white. Look at any historical record. They were not minorities before. The concept that they are minorities is completely new.

Try to think about it rationally: Why would being a Spanish descendant or having a Spanish surname make somebody a minority? What sense does that make? Its a political fabrication.

Mexicans were discriminated against and lynched by whites in the Southwest (California, Texas, Arizona) who took their Spanish land grants. Whites definitely made the distinction between anglos and Hispanics.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Mexican_sentiment


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/op...cans.html?_r=0


Texas finally begins to grapple with its ugly history of border violence against Mexican-Americans.
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:49 PM
 
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Mexicans were discriminated against and lynched by whites in the Southwest (California, Texas, Arizona) who took their Spanish land grants. Whites definitely made the distinction between anglos and Hispanics.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Mexican_sentiment


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/op...cans.html?_r=0


Texas finally begins to grapple with its ugly history of border violence against Mexican-Americans.
Hey genius, on the frontier there was often vigilante justice and hanging of white outlaws too. There were several conflict over time with the border. No one who matters cares about liberal's white scapegoating. People who have an incessant problem with whites and American history know where the door is .
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Old 10-31-2016, 11:19 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Hey genius, on the frontier there was often vigilante justice and hanging of white outlaws too. There were several conflict over time with the border. No one who matters cares about liberal's white scapegoating. People who have an incessant problem with whites and American history know where the door is .
Its called American history and the discrimination against Latinos by whites is a part of our nation's history



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6V4Ssk0ITc
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Old 11-01-2016, 12:03 AM
 
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Its called American history and the discrimination against Latinos by whites is a part of our nation's history

You mean a part of the liberal and la raza narrative and agenda. Let's talk about the present not 170 years ago that no one really knows the facts and truth.

Latin Americans are illegally colonizing America, they commit a higher crime rate than whites and a much, much higher interracial crime rate against whites, unfairly receive birthright citizenship and affirmative action and other benefits..meanwhile countries like Mexico are a dangerous and unwelcoming place especially for foreigners.
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Old 11-01-2016, 12:41 AM
 
Location: USA
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You mean a part of the liberal and la raza narrative and agenda. Let's talk about the present not 170 years ago that no one really knows the facts and truth.

Latin Americans are illegally colonizing America, they commit a higher crime rate than whites and a much, much higher interracial crime rate against whites, unfairly receive birthright citizenship and affirmative action and other benefits..meanwhile countries like Mexico are a dangerous and unwelcoming place especially for foreigners.
Well, there are a lot of us that have Anglo and Hispanic roots, going back before Arizona was a state, in my case. Not a single Illegal anywhere in my family history and no one who supports Illegals or Leftist radical groups either.
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