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OP, I'd also tell you if you have that option to save and have stuff prepared to leave when the times right, I kinda see the rest of the world going the US route as well but I'm still holding onto a small glimmer of hope and that's Eastern Europe they seem to have no interest in communism or a one world government.
They may very well crash too but right now they're the only possibility I see for a remaining first world country, I like to hold on to that hope!
I think we need to find a group of people like ourselves, and then try to make it larger and larger so we have some leverage - and give weekly direction about what the next step should be for the week. Start writing letters to each of our politicians saying we'll vote them out in the next election if they don't get off of their lazy behinds and start representing us. And give them bullet points on what that means, exactly. Weekly follow up emails asking them for a status on what they're doing. Nag them to damn death until they wish they'd never been elected in the first place.
Start campaigns to get rid of people who are the most corrupt. There's power in numbers, and I cannot remember any time in my life where there were so many disgusted Americans that they actually turned their backs on the status quo, gave their collective finger to Washington, and nominated an outsider we're willing to merely tolerate for the sake of freezing out the insiders. So now is the time to strike.
Such a group exists - they're all voting for Trump. We just need to harness all the energy there and put it toward holding our corrupt government's feet to the fire and making the lives of our do nothing politicians miserable until we see them doing their job.
In the meantime, cripple American media completely by never turning on an American *news* channel, buying a paper or subscribing to digital online news. Include them in the letter nagging campaign, call them on their bias, and write to any sponsors saying we're boycotting them, too.
I think we need to find a group of people like ourselves, and then try to make it larger and larger so we have some leverage - and give weekly direction about what the next step should be for the week. Start writing letters to each of our politicians saying we'll vote them out in the next election if they don't get off of their lazy behinds and start representing us. And give them bullet points on what that means, exactly. Weekly follow up emails asking them for a status on what they're doing. Nag them to damn death until they wish they'd never been elected in the first place.
Start campaigns to get rid of people who are the most corrupt. There's power in numbers, and I cannot remember any time in my life where there were so many disgusted Americans that they actually turned their backs on the status quo, gave their collective finger to Washington, and nominated an outsider we're willing to merely tolerate for the sake of freezing out the insiders. So now is the time to strike.
Such a group exists - they're all voting for Trump. We just need to harness all the energy there and put it toward holding our corrupt government's feet to the fire and making the lives of our do nothing politicians miserable until we see them doing their job.
I agree with this, we need to reverse the trend of politicians believing we are their cattle and remind them they serve us!
I'm in a position where I don't think it matters if trump or Hillary wins. American decline will continue, the rate is all that might differ.
For those of us who don't believe in the country, system, media or government at all anymore, what should we do? Ignore it all and focus on other things we enjoy? Are there passive aggressive ways we can give the media, government and other elites the finger? Sit back and enjoy the spectacle of a society falling into the oblivion?
I'm actually in your camp. I've lost all faith in politics in this country. I think the majority of our politicians should be investigated for treasonous behavior and either 1) hung 2) fired/publically humiliated or both.
I honestly don't think they've been working in the interests of the American public but global interests over the years.
And their salary to do so was paid by taxpayers.
So I voted, because that's what I can do.
And then I just plan on surviving. No ambitions for starting a family in this mess or buying into the system of getting into massive amounts of debt for stuff.
I plan on just paying off my student loans and live has happy as I can for the remainder.
I think what Trump says needs to be done, but ultimately it is common sense and should have been done years ago. There may be too much inertia at play to reverse the momentum of the damage done.
These people have been serving special interests not the American people.
Have you ever looked into emigrating? Most countries have standards for who they let in. You either have to have a job already, have the money to invest in a new business or have enough money to live independently.
I couldn't simply waltz across the border with Canada and expect to live there. Europe is the same way if you aren't a Muslim refugee.
I agree with this, we need to reverse the trend of politicians believing we are their cattle and remind them they serve us!
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I'm actually in your camp. I've lost all faith in politics in this country. I think the majority of our politicians should be investigated for treasonous behavior and either 1) hung 2) fired/publically humiliated or both.
I honestly don't think they've been working in the interests of the American public but global interests over the years.
And their salary to do so was paid by taxpayers.
So I voted, because that's what I can do.
And then I just plan on surviving. No ambitions for starting a family in this mess or buying into the system of getting into massive amounts of debt for stuff.
I plan on just paying off my student loans and live has happy as I can for the remainder.
I think what Trump says needs to be done, but ultimately it is common sense and should have been done years ago. There may be too much inertia at play to reverse the momentum of the damage done.
These people have been serving special interests not the American people.
This is where we get them by the short hairs. Can you imagine their offices receiving millions of letters and emails telling them that if they so much as vote themselves a dime, they're done in politics for good?
We've been too passive. It's time to be as obnoxious as they are.
This is where we get them by the short hairs. Can you imagine their offices receiving millions of letters and emails telling them that if they so much as vote themselves a dime, they're done in politics for good?
We've been too passive. It's time to be as obnoxious as they are.
It's really pretty pathetic that the two people interviewing for purportedly the most powerful position in the country devolve to the behavior of a 3 year old in taunting each other. No professionalism on either side.
It's really sad that the two can't even articulate as well as a 15 year old in a public speaking class.
It's not just this campaign. It's been like this for years. Apparently it's acceptable behavior on the largest stage.
I tried to find a website providing simple objective data of where candidates stood on positions and I had to spend 15 minutes leafing through all sorts of accusations of the other (modified, inflated, or otherwise)
Agreed change needs to happen at the white house, and in my opinion ALL of them need to go. Rebuild. What we have now is an embarrassment.
Voting assumes that voting actually matters. Even if voting does matter, the media propagandists so much that most people don't even know what they really think.
That's just an excuse. Voting matters, but that doesn't mean your vote automatically makes a candidate win.... Seems your views aren't shared with enough folks.
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