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Old 11-09-2016, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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^^^see bolded above

This is why I question what you are even talking about, and why you question my health insurance cost, when you say "we are supposed to believe", it sounds like you are calling me a liar
I'm not saying you are lying. I don't care one way or another so it doesn't enter my mind. The reason for that is because one example, which is different from the normal amount people are paying, is meaningless. Even if you were paying what those in your "category" are paying is also meaningless.
The truth is not your example, the truth is what the avg person is paying. Reasons matter.
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:44 AM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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Well,what did they have before Obamacare?

I could not afford Obamacare and I could not afford health insurance before Obamacare,and before you go off I am not poor enough for Medicaid.
I'm in the same boat. Sometimes I think about putting everything I own into some kind of blind trust and going on welfare and medicaid and demand my Obamaphone. But I guess I missed out on that now.


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No it will not.

Employers can deduct the costs of providing insurance now.

Individuals cannot.

Yes - but they are deducting from what would otherwise be profits which could in turn pay higher wages. Or at least put more money into the fat cat CEO's pockets...
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:48 AM
 
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Uggh I hope you are rich, because if not, good luck affording medical care with no insurance
I have been doing fine without insurance since that living abortion was allowed to become law.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:05 AM
 
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The un and under-insured will be taken in by hospitals (not good on a lot of levels to turn people away from the ER). The hospitals will end up eating the costs, which will eventually drive healthcare prices through the roof! Then, were back to square one.....!
This is already happening. It never went away.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:32 AM
 
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This is already happening. It never went away.
A friends teenager broke his arm and went to the ER in AZ and all they did was splint it (stabalize) and send him away since he couldn't pay.

Took him months and his arm had to eventually be rebroken - and he will never have full use of it due to the abysmal health care.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:39 AM
 
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A friends teenager broke his arm and went to the ER in AZ and all they did was splint it (stabalize) and send him away since he couldn't pay.

Took him months and his arm had to eventually be rebroken - and he will never have full use of it due to the abysmal health care.
Your friend went to the wrong ER. I work in a hospital and we take care of patients all the time who don't have insurance. When they leave, they don't pay one red cent. Many are in there for weeks or even months, getting treatment.
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Old 11-09-2016, 06:47 AM
 
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Obamacare was dead either way. Liberals do not understand numbers, only what makes them feel good. Giving insurance to everyone sounds good on paper, but you can't expect everyone else to pay for it. My insurance tripled compared to what I use to pay and the coverage sucks.

Put a tax on junk food and use it to pay for insurance for people that truly deserve it. The food Americans eat is the primary cause of all of these health issues. Why on earth is it not being taxed?
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Old 11-09-2016, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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My kids in college are on my policy. When Obamacare goes down, they will possibly lose their insurance coverage and be unable to replace it.
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Old 11-09-2016, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Say Goodbye to Obamacare
Maybe...

It's a half step compromise that satisfies almost no one.

We need to go to single payer, but that's highly unlikely now.
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Old 11-09-2016, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Adios
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