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Old 02-05-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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He seems to have no respect for the deeply corrupted Justice Department and FBI.
"He seems to have no respect for the deeply corrupted Justice Department and FBI"

Only if you get your "news" from the LSM.

A good slogan, "boots not suits".

In other words he DOES OPENLY support the "boots" on the ground.

I don't blame him for his criticisms of some of the leadership who are MOSTLY political appointees.

Many of the left on here think that those agencies are as pure as the driven snow.

They don't think the IRS under Bill Clinton and Obama EVER did anything wrong.

They are probably too young to remember any of the past stories about those agencies.

Hoover KEPT his position as head of the FBI because of the "dirt" he had on Wash, politicians.

The left were ALL over the CIA for its "bad intel" on WMD's in Iraq but, because Trump criticizes them he is "against" them.
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Old 02-05-2018, 08:31 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I am always the first to admit when I am wrong, even though I maintain deep admiration for Maxine Waters and Reverend Wright.
There's medication for that...<bold>
The two of them are wonders of the modern world.

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"He seems to have no respect for the deeply corrupted Justice Department and FBI"

Only if you get your "news" from the LSM.
What is the LSM?

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"A good slogan, "boots not suits".

In other words he DOES OPENLY support the "boots" on the ground.

I don't blame him for his criticisms of some of the leadership who are MOSTLY political appointees.
You got that right.

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"Many of the left on here think that those agencies are as pure as the driven snow.
Especially on and in the days after June 17, 1972.

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"The left were ALL over the CIA for its "bad intel" on WMD's in Iraq but, because Trump criticizes them he is "against" them.
Even though I am a left-wing extremist, I think the CIA's intel on Iraq was just fine. Two reasons: 1) Hussein boasted of having WMD's, a move as bright as joking about having a machine gun at security at school or a bomb at an airport; and 2) the weapons were probably hidden in Syria, to be used by ISIS in more recent years.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:04 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Sorry if you posted this earlier but can you summarize the factor(s) that changed your mind about Hillary?
More about what's turned out to be Trump's positives:
  1. Called the President of Taiwan;
  2. Recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital;
  3. Decertified Iran's compliance with the JCPOA; and
  4. Pulled the U.S. out of the Paris Climate Accords.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:09 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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The two of them are wonders of the modern world.

What is the LSM?

You got that right.

Especially on and in the days after June 17, 1972.

Even though I am a left-wing extremist, I think the CIA's intel on Iraq was just fine. Two reasons: 1) Hussein boasted of having WMD's, a move as bright as joking about having a machine gun at security at school or a bomb at an airport; and 2) the weapons were probably hidden in Syria, to be used by ISIS in more recent years.
The CIA took what Saddam said with what little evidence they had as the truth. The CIA (hugely) failed to (rightly) predict what removing Saddam would do to the stability of the region with respect to Iran, who were totally scared to death of Saddam. That was a HUGE blunder...
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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The CIA took what Saddam said with what little evidence they had as the truth. The CIA (hugely) failed to (rightly) predict what removing Saddam would do to the stability of the region with respect to Iran, who were totally scared to death of Saddam. That was a HUGE blunder...
Good points. I still think we should have gone in but perhaps managed the succession the way we did back in the day, i.e. picking a successor, covertly or otherwise. I don't think that Japan practically had unlimited freedom to pick their next leader after Tojo.

What we did was turn the succession into a game of "52 pickup" by having them hold elections. Countries with no civil societies are no place for elections.

And I'll admit that I would not have said that about elections at the time, circa 2003-4.

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Old 02-06-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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The two of them are wonders of the modern world.

What is the LSM?

You got that right.

Especially on and in the days after June 17, 1972.

Even though I am a left-wing extremist, I think the CIA's intel on Iraq was just fine. Two reasons: 1) Hussein boasted of having WMD's, a move as bright as joking about having a machine gun at security at school or a bomb at an airport; and 2) the weapons were probably hidden in Syria, to be used by ISIS in more recent years.
"What is the LSM?"

If you don't know by now why do you even to bother to post?

I thought all lefties were highly educated and super smart.

I guess not.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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"What is the LSM?"

If you don't know by now why do you even to bother to post?

I thought all lefties were highly educated and super smart.

I guess not.
No need to be insulting, especially to a poster who is big enough to come back, a full year-plus after his original post, and admit to reassessing his views about the President based on his actual job performance. Personally, my respect for the OP has taken a climb upwards.

LSM = Lame Stream Media (a play on the term Main Stream Media).
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Old 02-06-2018, 05:33 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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No need to be insulting, especially to a poster who is big enough to come back, a full year-plus after his original post, and admit to reassessing his views about the President based on his actual job performance. Personally, my respect for the OP has taken a climb upwards.

LSM = Lame Stream Media (a play on the term Main Stream Media).
Thanks. I tried to rep you but I couldn't. I have many faults, including an IQ of 79 but I can and do admit when I am wrong. As far as "LSM" goes I don't live on the boards so I appreciate the translation. Compared to how the Times was in the late 60's and early 70's it is lame so it's an apt term.
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Old 05-21-2018, 04:46 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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People are more focused on meeting the next month’s mortgage payment, property tax bill or rent bill than on abstract concerns such as global warming, or bringing Iran back into the international community. The duty to welcome the stranger must be subordinate to or at most equal to charity to our own needy and middle class.


There is nothing I admire or respect about Trump. But we are a voting republic and the message of voters with whom we rarely interact must be heard loud and clear.
I was wrong about one thing; there is plenty to admire about Trump, other than his Tweets.
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