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Old 11-10-2016, 06:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust View Post
Using birth control *is* being responsible though. It's how they avoid having kids that would cost real $$$.
I'm fine with birth control, but why should I be buying YOUR birth control.

I'll reiterate, if someone has a child, IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. THEY MUST INCUR THE COSTS.

If they can't, then they go to FAMILY NOT GOVERNMENT. If Family is not there, try a local church. There is accountability within these institutions.

IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR YOUR CHILDREN..

OR your birth control.



God gave you a right hand.


Use it.


And if you don't, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE OR SOCIETY'S.


The government has no business financing your birth control.
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Old 11-10-2016, 06:27 PM
 
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They will probably start to reconsider when HOPEFULLY Trump starts slashing some the gravy train away. Why does the RESPONSIBLE, America tax pay have to continue to support MORONS who keep popping out kids they can't afford??

Where is self responsibility as adults? These people should suffer the consequences if they make stupid decisions just like everyone has to

Exactly. The institutions that are in place to assist with someone having a child is the family unit and/or the church/ volunteer community support groups.

NOT the TAXPAYERS.


The best way to curb behavior is make the issue the person's problem.

If someone has a child, THEY are responsible for him/her not me.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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With the repeal of Obamacare, which provides birth control, and the defunding of Planned Parenthood, which provides birth control to low-income families, we can expect the birth rate of the poor to go up.

Note: Obamacare is a disaster and I never thought it should include payments for birth control, but I'm just noting that with these two things, there's probably going to be a birth increase among the poor.

This might hasten the growth of minorities in the country, making whites the minority sooner than expected. Ironic, isn't it?
Birth control is not that expensive I guess.

As for the last sentence do you mean that minorities are the poor people?

Well, I saw an Indian dad in the playground and I had a joke with him, 'let me guess your job, IT or Doctor?' and he laughed, 'yes, I am Doctor and my wife IT.'.

And 20% of my community are Indian families working in IT or medical industry.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:44 PM
 
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True, but what about when they break or slip off? Then what? They will then need the emergency birth control pill.

Grasping at straws here, aren't you? What do you think the odds of that happening is to it not happening. I'd say pretty slim.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:46 PM
 
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I'm fine with birth control, but why should I be buying YOUR birth control.

I'll reiterate, if someone has a child, IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. THEY MUST INCUR THE COSTS.

If they can't, then they go to FAMILY NOT GOVERNMENT. If Family is not there, try a local church. There is accountability within these institutions.

IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR YOUR CHILDREN..

OR your birth control.



God gave you a right hand.


Use it.


And if you don't, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE OR SOCIETY'S.


The government has no business financing your birth control.

I pretty much agree with you.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:49 PM
 
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They will probably start to reconsider when HOPEFULLY Trump starts slashing some the gravy train away. Why does the RESPONSIBLE, America tax pay have to continue to support MORONS who keep popping out kids they can't afford??

Where is self responsibility as adults? These people should suffer the consequences if they make stupid decisions just like everyone has to

Agreed.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:57 PM
 
Location: London
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Grasping at straws here, aren't you? What do you think the odds of that happening is to it not happening. I'd say pretty slim.
18 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/le...ve-are-condoms
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:01 PM
 
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18 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/le...ve-are-condoms
i


Oh, that figures this is from Planned Parenthood.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:05 PM
 
Location: California
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My concern isn't and never will be "free birth control" since I grew up in a time when it wasn't and managed to stay pregnancy free until I decided otherwise. Sure, it's a nice perk if we can afford to be generous, but it DOES make people lazy and entitled so I'm not sure it's a net positive.

Maybe it's time rethink the sexual free for all? I'm just saying.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm fine with birth control, but why should I be buying YOUR birth control.

I'll reiterate, if someone has a child, IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. THEY MUST INCUR THE COSTS.

If they can't, then they go to FAMILY NOT GOVERNMENT. If Family is not there, try a local church. There is accountability within these institutions.

IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR YOUR CHILDREN..

OR your birth control.



God gave you a right hand.


Use it.


And if you don't, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE OR SOCIETY'S.


The government has no business financing your birth control.
I wouldn't go to a church for crap. Should atheists, Jews, Muslims, or agnostics be subjected to the proselytizing that should undoubtably occur if they went to a church for help?
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