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Old 11-05-2017, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Guess we'll have to arrest Bono and the Queen, too.
Neither one of them are American, so why should we care about them?

Please stop trying to put the spotlight on foreigners, instead of Trump and his criminal friends, who are American.

 
Old 11-05-2017, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Looks like SOS Tillerson has a problem also. Ties with Russians are a problem with this POTUS, Cabinet and Staff. They all have the same issue, lying to get their jobs.
 
Old 11-06-2017, 04:52 AM
 
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Neither one of them are American, so why should we care about them?

Please stop trying to put the spotlight on foreigners, instead of Trump and his criminal friends, who are American.

Not all of them.
 
Old 11-06-2017, 05:38 AM
 
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Well Cabinet member Wilbur Ross is outed tonight. Leaks from an off shore lawyer group has shown Ross to be as unethical as the POTUS. He lied about ties to Russian's. Seems he never divested from an oil shippintg company which is doing business with Putin's buddies. Many LLC's trying to hide his connection created by the law firm for him. Mr. Ross may need to answer to the Senate.

See "Nutty Don lying again" a closed thread with a good history of lies from the current administration.
To be fair, according to BBC article while things may look shady, nothing looks illegal.

Ross claims to recuse himself from anything having to do with transoceanic commerce.

Which is odd, given that he is after all, Secretary of Commerce.
 
Old 11-06-2017, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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To be fair, according to BBC article while things may look shady, nothing looks illegal.

Ross claims to recuse himself from anything having to do with transoceanic commerce.

Which is odd, given that he is after all, Secretary of Commerce.
A favorite line: We will see, We will see.
 
Old 11-06-2017, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Peel the thin outer skin off of the stinking tRump onion and what do you get?

Layer after layer of Russian ties and outright lies about those connections.

tRump administration members? Yes!

tRump family? Definitely!

tRump campaign? No doubt!

tRump himself?

 
Old 11-06-2017, 07:24 AM
 
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So for those who have no idea what the latest "Outrage of the Day" is .......

Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross owns shares in a company called Navigator Holdings (transoceanic shipping company). Actually, looking at the Wilbur Ross Financial Disclosure - he owns shares in a lot of Shipping companies. In fact - I believe we can say with absolutely certainty that Wilbur Ross is a VERY wealthy man and certainly in the top 1%.

All the Nominees for Cabinet Posts are required to disclose their Financial Circumstances to the Government Ethics office ..... which he did. YEP - you find Navigator Holdings listed 3 times in Section 1. Filer's Positions Held Outside United States Government. In fact, Mr Ross was on the Board of Directors & Chairman for at least part of 2 years - 2012-2014.

WOW - Wilbur Ross was on the Board of Directors of 82 different Companies that were "Outside of the USA" as reported on this Financial Discloser. ..... I now understand better why he is the Secretary of Commerce and why he takes no salary in that position. I would say he has a LOT of experience in Commerce and certainly doesn't need the money.

Executive Branch Personnel
Public Financial Disclosure Report (OGE Form 278e)
Filer's Information - Ross, Wilbur L
Secretary, Department of Commerce
Government Ethics Office


So .... what is the "Outrage of the Day" concerning Navigator Holdings?
Turns out that Mr Ross did not disclose the names of every single person/company/entity that also owned shares or invested in Navigator Holdings. One of the companies that held shares of Navigator Holdings was a Russian Company (and the Queen of England) ...... Wilbur Ross did not list the OTHER Shareholders of Navigator Holdings - and THAT is his "great sin".

I should add that Mr Ross also did not list the OTHER SHAREHOLDERS of all the other Companies he listed an interest in. I checked his entire list and what I did not find was MY NAME, which certainly should have been there as I also own shares/interest in several of the same Companies as Mr Ross.

Wilbur Ross says reports he didn't disclose ties to Putin-linked firm are 'totally wrong' |CNBC

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross reportedly failed to clearly disclose to Congress that he retained an interest in a shipping firm that has close dealings with people linked to Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

The millions of documents mostly originate from a Bermuda-based legal services provider that works on offshore investments. Reports on Sunday suggested that Ross did not disclose an interest in a shipping company called Navigator Holdings, a company that has a business relationship with SIBUR.


This nefarious "business relationship" and "close ties to Putin" ..... is that they both held some shares in the same Holding Company. Beware folks - this means if you have your money in the same banking companies like Wells Fargo or Bank of America as a criminal or maybe even a rapist ...... you can be considered to have "close ties" and a "business relationship" with that criminal or rapist ..... According to the Bat Guano Leftists.

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Old 11-06-2017, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Mr. Ross was also on the Board of a Cyprus Bank. It turns out to be the one most used by the Russians to launder their money (Manafort, Flynn).

Pretty funny that Cabinet members have to rewrite disclosure statements after the truth shows up.

Not to mention POTUS family members, who turn out to be staff.
 
Old 11-06-2017, 02:35 PM
 
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Ok is there ANYONE in Trump's cabinet who is not tied to Russia and Putin?

It seems it was a pre condition to be part of Team Trump! Maybe the idea was that by only hiring those with deep Russian links Trump could ensure they all stay quiet.....?

As Boss states above, Ross is tied to money laundering...


here are just a couple of stories warning about Ross, he Looks to be involved in Manafort's Money laundering...


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Trump's commerce secretary oversaw Russia deal while at Bank of Cyprus
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...erce-secretary
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White House accused of blocking information on bank's Trump-Russia links
New commerce secretary Wilbur Ross’s response about possible links between Bank of Cyprus, Russian agents and Trump officials wasn’t released to Senate
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...f-cyprus-putin
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Paul Manafort used Wilbur Ross' Bank of Cyprus to handle all his illicit Russian funding needs
As it turns out, that’s not all the games Manafort was playing in Cyprus. Ross’ bank was like a second home to Manafort … or at least to the money he took from “clients.”
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...-funding-needs
 
Old 11-06-2017, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Ok is there ANYONE in Trump's cabinet who is not tied to Russia and Putin?

It seems it was a pre condition to be part of Team Trump! Maybe the idea was that by only hiring those with deep Russian links Trump could ensure they all stay quiet.....?

As Boss states above, Ross is tied to money laundering...


here are just a couple of stories warning about Ross, he Looks to be involved in Manafort's Money laundering...
Russia ties:

tRump's cabinet

tRump's family

tRump's campaign

And ALL of them lied about their Russian connections/cooperation.

Putin's puppets.

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