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The EPA should be disbanded, not re-staffed and so should all the other unconstitutional alphabet soup agencies who make up laws as they go. They are all rogue.
Pointing to one rather large mistake by the EPA doesn't come close to making a case for firing, oversight and remediation of these mines is a monumental task. There are thousands of these areas nationwide that are jeopardizing our water yet you continue to reference one case as if that is the norm.
Also, I believe it was an EPA contractor that screwed things up. Not to mention, that had the mine operator not left a mess to begin with it wouldn't have been an issue.
Also, I believe it was an EPA contractor that screwed things up.
So you want to shift the blame to the guy running the backhoe, instead of the government "experts" that ordered him where and what to dig? I guess government workers are never to be held accountable for anything.
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You enjoy sniffing leaded gasoline exhaust?
I will admit to missing the smell of un-burned gas in the exhaust on the 350 V8 I had in my 330 HP 1972 El Camino that I sold in 2007, but I didn't actually sniff it. There were no smog issues, though, as a classic older than 25 years in our state there are no tests of any kind. Now it's nice to have that much power in a modern Challenger that still gets 19/28 mpg. The EPA has done some good work, but has gone overboard in other cases. The balance between environmental protection and private property rights is difficult to achieve.
Why is the EPA not revisiting DDT with the threats of things like West Nike and Zeka?
I bring up DDT because it is the EPA's most egregious act and because they have stuck to their guns on it for 40 years.
It's already been shown that DDT is safe around humans. It's been shown that the lab studies about egg shell thinning were invalid because they introduced levels of DDT higher than what could possibly be encountered as well as reducing the amount of calcium in the test birds' diets. When the tests were replicated without ,DDT and the same calcium deficient diets, the shell were just as thin. When the tests were done with proper diets and expected DDT levels, the shells were normal.
The EPA has ignored this due to the practicality religious devotion to beliefs, tradition, a book and the fear of looking dumb.
This is why it is still relevant.
The World Health Organization approved DDT for use indoors in tropical countries in 2006, it is classified as a probable carcinogen. If ingested it can effect reproduction, learning ability and other impacts and it lasts decades.
The impact to Bald Eagles and other wildlife may not be as originally tested but there are still reasons for it's ban. I don't see that any scientific studies that were conclusive that we should return to DDT in the US.
I will admit to missing the smell of un-burned gas in the exhaust on the 350 V8 I had in my 330 HP 1972 El Camino that I sold in 2007, but I didn't actually sniff it. There were no smog issues, though, as a classic older than 25 years in our state there are no tests of any kind. Now it's nice to have that much power in a modern Challenger that still gets 19/28 mpg. The EPA has done some good work, but has gone overboard in other cases. The balance between environmental protection and private property rights is difficult to achieve.
Do you have specific examples of how the EPA has gone overboard?
Also, I believe it was an EPA contractor that screwed things up. Not to mention, that had the mine operator not left a mess to begin with it wouldn't have been an issue.
You are aware of all the damage done to the land in coal mining states I assume . Did you know the mining companies paid the state to reclaim those areas . What the state did with that money is anybody's guess .
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