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Old 12-22-2016, 04:29 AM
 
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She did do something big. Born into slavery, beaten and broken, she displayed a heroic strength of character. 20 million other people didn't do what she did. I really feel sorry for the people who are opposed to honoring her contributions.
That would make her a hero, but did that result in a policy shift that permanently changed the country?
In other words, if Harriet Tubman didn't do any of this, would we still have slavery?

 
Old 12-22-2016, 06:49 AM
 
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He's being removed to make way for a different American hero.

The same way that others have been removed in the past.
I agree with this.

He is not being removed for some sort of specific "reason." Actually they were going to remove Hamilton, per my reference in a previous post and not Jackson, but after the Hamilton musical gained in popularity, there was an outcry from fans not to remove him and so Jackson was next to consider.

Again, I think it is because he and Hamilton, prior to the musical coming out, were the least well known people on our currency.

Regardless, it is not a slight to Jackson to be removed. Currency changes and we have a lot of heroes who IMO should get consideration as well to be on a bill.

Only a few people in this thread it seems are upset about Jackson being on the bill and IMO they probably didn't know anything about him either until people started talking about this and I believe they are having a defensive reaction to other people's prejudice about Harriet Tubman.

She really was an American hero. IMO we should look at it as an honorable thing that Jackson is giving his position to the next wave of American heroes and not believe he shouldn't be taken off. We only have so many currency bills in use today so someone, eventually will have to be removed and it makes sense to have the least well known person removed. I also think that Grant should be removed from the $50 in the future as not a lot of people know much about him either other than he was a general in the Civil War. IMO Lincoln on the $5 is enough of a Civil War reference. It would be cool IMO if we could have themed currency or maybe change them up every 10-20 years like they do in other countries, at least for specific denominations of bills.
 
Old 12-22-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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Thank you
Lol So she was a terroriist but the slave owners throughout the south she was fighting against that enslaved other people, raped them (men, women, children), whipped them for trying to break free, fed kids to alligators, and forced reproduction among the slaves to create another generation of them wasn't terrorism? 69 is awfully less than the amount that died during the slave trade

A lot of you didn't read the fine print. Andrew Jackson is STAYING on the front of the bill. Harriet Tubman will be on the back.

Still curious why you're opposed to it. "Keeping it the way it is" isn't a good argument because then nothing in this country would change
 
Old 12-22-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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Just more symbolism from a symbolic president. I can understand the symbolism to a point. Ultimately, all symbolism is shallow.
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Right so leave it alone
 
Old 12-22-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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Lol So she was a terroriist but the slave owners throughout the south she was fighting against that enslaved other people, raped them (men, women, children), whipped them for trying to break free, fed kids to alligators, and forced reproduction among the slaves to create another generation of them wasn't terrorism? 69 is awfully less than the amount that died during the slave trade

A lot of you didn't read the fine print. Andrew Jackson is STAYING on the front of the bill. Harriet Tubman will be on the back.

Still curious why you're opposed to it. "Keeping it the way it is" isn't a good argument because then nothing in this country would change
Where did you read Tubman was going to be on the back? I haven't seen that anywhere.
 
Old 12-22-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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I agree with this.

He is not being removed for some sort of specific "reason." Actually they were going to remove Hamilton, per my reference in a previous post and not Jackson, but after the Hamilton musical gained in popularity, there was an outcry from fans not to remove him and so Jackson was next to consider.

Again, I think it is because he and Hamilton, prior to the musical coming out, were the least well known people on our currency.

Regardless, it is not a slight to Jackson to be removed. Currency changes and we have a lot of heroes who IMO should get consideration as well to be on a bill.

Only a few people in this thread it seems are upset about Jackson being on the bill and IMO they probably didn't know anything about him either until people started talking about this and I believe they are having a defensive reaction to other people's prejudice about Harriet Tubman.

She really was an American hero. IMO we should look at it as an honorable thing that Jackson is giving his position to the next wave of American heroes and not believe he shouldn't be taken off. We only have so many currency bills in use today so someone, eventually will have to be removed and it makes sense to have the least well known person removed. I also think that Grant should be removed from the $50 in the future as not a lot of people know much about him either other than he was a general in the Civil War. IMO Lincoln on the $5 is enough of a Civil War reference. It would be cool IMO if we could have themed currency or maybe change them up every 10-20 years like they do in other countries, at least for specific denominations of bills.
REALLY?? NOT BECAUSE HE WAS THE 18th POTUS???
 
Old 12-22-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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Lol So she was a terroriist but the slave owners throughout the south she was fighting against that enslaved other people, raped them (men, women, children), whipped them for trying to break free, fed kids to alligators, and forced reproduction among the slaves to create another generation of them wasn't terrorism? 69 is awfully less than the amount that died during the slave trade

A lot of you didn't read the fine print. Andrew Jackson is STAYING on the front of the bill. Harriet Tubman will be on the back.

Still curious why you're opposed to it. "Keeping it the way it is" isn't a good argument because then nothing in this country would change
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. She is only a terrorist to those who feel endangered by her motives. She was about freedom and was willing to die and kill for that freedom. She is only a terrorist to those who want slavery to continue(or return).
 
Old 12-22-2016, 08:47 AM
 
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I agree with this.

He is not being removed for some sort of specific "reason." Actually they were going to remove Hamilton, per my reference in a previous post and not Jackson, but after the Hamilton musical gained in popularity, there was an outcry from fans not to remove him and so Jackson was next to consider.

Again, I think it is because he and Hamilton, prior to the musical coming out, were the least well known people on our currency.

Regardless, it is not a slight to Jackson to be removed. Currency changes and we have a lot of heroes who IMO should get consideration as well to be on a bill.

Only a few people in this thread it seems are upset about Jackson being on the bill and IMO they probably didn't know anything about him either until people started talking about this and I believe they are having a defensive reaction to other people's prejudice about Harriet Tubman.

She really was an American hero. IMO we should look at it as an honorable thing that Jackson is giving his position to the next wave of American heroes and not believe he shouldn't be taken off. We only have so many currency bills in use today so someone, eventually will have to be removed and it makes sense to have the least well known person removed. I also think that Grant should be removed from the $50 in the future as not a lot of people know much about him either other than he was a general in the Civil War. IMO Lincoln on the $5 is enough of a Civil War reference. It would be cool IMO if we could have themed currency or maybe change them up every 10-20 years like they do in other countries, at least for specific denominations of bills.
Sounds like you're kind of advocating for something like the state quarters program where a different person is showcased on a bill far more often. Limiting money to founding fathers by nature only limits your options to a handful of white guys from the east coast. Could be worse, a lot of foreign countries will simply have the same guy on all their bills.
 
Old 12-22-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. She is only a terrorist to those who feel endangered by her motives. She was about freedom and was willing to die and kill for that freedom. She is only a terrorist to those who want slavery to continue(or return).
She may have been a terrorist just for her day.
Imagine if abortion ever becomes illegal again, and a hundred years from now we put somebody who blew up an abortion clinic on a dollar bill. One could say, "well, it was wrong at the time, but they were willing to kill for what they believed in".
 
Old 12-22-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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Just leave it the way it is.


That's all
Very compelling argument
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