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I’m still waiting for you to present an argument that I can’t shoot down…
If that's shooting, you must be using blanks.
So, it hasn't happened and no illegal activity has taken place, but because you think it might, people that don't agree to disavow legal actions that haven't even happened are hypocritical?
Jesus, that's a leap .
If that's shooting, you must be using blanks.
So, it hasn't happened and no illegal activity has taken place, but because you think it might, people that don't agree to disavow legal actions that haven't even happened are hypocritical?
Jesus, that's a leap .
Nothing happened w/ Clinton yet that didn't stop yall from insinuating that she was running a pay-for-play operation through her post. If you're so sure that Clinton was doing it based on NO EVIDENCE and the appearance that it could happen, you should demanding Trump divest himself.
I don't think you're hypocrites. I think -- correction: I KNOW you're full of sh**. The best part is that you know you're full of sh** too, you just want to hide behind semantics of the law to cover the stench....
But please... go ahead and reiterate that b/c the President can't be CHARGED for having a conflict-of-interest, therefore he can't be influenced by foreigners pumping money into his personal fortune....
We knew what we voted for. We knew Trump was in the hotel/resort/casino business.
Hillary tried to conceal her pay-for-play organization. When caught, she tried to deny it. 100's of thousands of dollars per speech while still holding office?:eek:
No. NOT while in office.
Unlike your president-elect who will be promoting pay for play from Day ONE.
Unlike your president-elect who will be promoting pay for play from Day ONE.
Expect lawsuits coming out the yin/yang.
That's the crazy thing... They've literally spent months outlining how a politician could trade favors for money from other countries. Trump gets dropped right in the middle of their scenario and now suddenly, they're all "Well I don't see how you could make a leap like that..." B/c this is what you said would happen with a politician in that position!
It doesn't matter what the Democrats did. What matters is what Conservatives did, said, and thought.
You have Trump in nearly the same position Hillary was in, and you trumpeted your corruption allegations. Since you're not doing it now, are you admitting those allegations were always a BS argument...
Please ..... refresh my memory.
Did Hillary Clinton list over 500 companies that she owned on her FEC reports???
That's what Donald Trump did.
Divest means "sell, get rid of" ..... we are talking over 500 companies that he has an interest in.
Is it reasonable to demand he sell off his entire Private Company Empire?
Will the OFFICE of Ethics even claim that it what he should do? And if they should claim it (which they have so far refused to do) -- will the Courts back that up?
We have never, in our History - had a President who owned so much Real Estate and had so many diverse companies .... with so many Employees. The majority of Presidents in our History have been Lawyers with Stock Portfolios - NOT Billionaire Real Estate Moguls.
The attacks on The Clinton Foundation were about foreign countries buying influence & favors from HC by donating money to her pet project. Conservatives point out that regardless if there is no evidence backing the pay-for-play accusations, the fact that other countries were able to give money to someone who had a hand in decisions that hurt or benefitted their country at least showed HC had poor judgment.
So what changed w/ Trump? Not only is he already indebted to foreign countries, he’s keeping himself and his family clearly involved in businesses that other countries can use to buy influence & favors…
Why are Conservatives so convinced that Trump will act unbiasedly, yet equally convinced that HC acted inappropriately when she was in the same position?
Clinton was in office while getting the $.
Trump amassed his $ before taking office. That's the big difference to me.
So your argument is that since we know Trump is getting influenced by this surge of money going into his properties, that means his bribes are okay?........
What surge? Basketball players say they won't stay in Trump properties, and New York City snowflakes now need a psychiatrist to make it through inauguration day. Why will there be a "surge of money"?
If you think there is bribery somewhere, call 911.
Ohhhh man... these logic pretzels are getting good...
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Originally Posted by Kibby
Please ..... refresh my memory.
Did Hillary Clinton list over 500 companies that she owned on her FEC reports???
That's what Donald Trump did.
Divest means "sell, get rid of" ..... we are talking over 500 companies that he has an interest in.
Is it reasonable to demand he sell off his entire Private Company Empire?
Will the OFFICE of Ethics even claim that it what he should do? And if they should claim it (which they have so far refused to do) -- will the Courts back that up?
We have never, in our History - had a President who owned so much Real Estate and had so many diverse companies .... with so many Employees. The majority of Presidents in our History have been Lawyers with Stock Portfolios - NOT Billionaire Real Estate Moguls.
The Hysterical Meltdown continues .....
So your argument is that Trump is SO successful, how can we expect him to do things that would remove that appearance of impropriety that we slammed Hillary Clinton for? There come a point where you have so many ways you can be bribed that we just need to throw our hands up b/c we're not going to be able to watch them all, amirite?
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Originally Posted by FJR1
Clinton was in office while getting the $.
Trump amassed his $ before taking office. That's the big difference to me.
And your argument is that Trump is already rich, so he can't be bought or influenced by getting MORE money. B/c if there's one thing that we know Trump doesn't do is find ways to try to get richer after he's already hit millionaire status, amirite?
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Originally Posted by Listener2307
What surge? Basketball players say they won't stay in Trump properties, and New York City snowflakes now need a psychiatrist to make it through inauguration day. Why will there be a "surge of money"?
If you think there is bribery somewhere, call 911.
And your argument is that Trump can't be bought b/c there are people who are willing to NOT pay him. B/c when you're losing money, the last thing you care about is making more money, amirite?
Please ..... refresh my memory.
Did Hillary Clinton list over 500 companies that she owned on her FEC reports???
That's what Donald Trump did.
Divest means "sell, get rid of" ..... we are talking over 500 companies that he has an interest in.
Is it reasonable to demand he sell off his entire Private Company Empire?
Will the OFFICE of Ethics even claim that it what he should do? And if they should claim it (which they have so far refused to do) -- will the Courts back that up?
We have never, in our History - had a President who owned so much Real Estate and had so many diverse companies .... with so many Employees. The majority of Presidents in our History have been Lawyers with Stock Portfolios - NOT Billionaire Real Estate Moguls.
The Hysterical Meltdown continues .....
Well ya all demanded Clinton shut down the Clinton Foundation if she won. Trump having business interests in all these countries with his children who've been advising him on cabinet selections and policies is much more rife for influence, it doesn't even have to be conscious - it's gonna happen.
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