Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-15-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
9,701 posts, read 5,115,103 times
Reputation: 4270

Advertisements

The attacks on The Clinton Foundation were about foreign countries buying influence & favors from HC by donating money to her pet project. Conservatives point out that regardless if there is no evidence backing the pay-for-play accusations, the fact that other countries were able to give money to someone who had a hand in decisions that hurt or benefitted their country at least showed HC had poor judgment.

So what changed w/ Trump? Not only is he already indebted to foreign countries, he’s keeping himself and his family clearly involved in businesses that other countries can use to buy influence & favors…

Why are Conservatives so convinced that Trump will act unbiasedly, yet equally convinced that HC acted inappropriately when she was in the same position?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-15-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
8,653 posts, read 6,135,705 times
Reputation: 3368
If Conservatives don't think Trump should divest, are they admitting the pay-4-play attacks on Clinton were BS?

Short answer, yes..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2016, 03:10 PM
 
20,462 posts, read 12,387,859 times
Reputation: 10259
Quote:
Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310 View Post
If Conservatives don't think Trump should divest, are they admitting the pay-4-play attacks on Clinton were BS?

Short answer, yes..
wrong

short answer. NO.


Why because its against the law for a SecState to require people pay her for access.
It is specifically NOT against the law for a sitting President to hold business interests. and more importantly the US CODE excludes the president from conflict of interests laws.... THAT APPLY TO SECSTATE.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
9,701 posts, read 5,115,103 times
Reputation: 4270
Quote:
Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310 View Post
If Conservatives don't think Trump should divest, are they admitting the pay-4-play attacks on Clinton were BS?

Short answer, yes..
I know. I just want to see the logical knots they tie themselves into trying to make excuses.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2016, 03:11 PM
 
20,462 posts, read 12,387,859 times
Reputation: 10259
Quote:
Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
I know. I just want to see the logical knots they tie themselves into trying to make excuses.
sorry.
there are no logical knots. There is just US CODE. There is just the law. period. end of story.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2016, 03:13 PM
 
17,598 posts, read 15,272,563 times
Reputation: 22920
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd View Post
wrong

short answer. NO.


Why because its against the law for a SecState to require people pay her for access.
It is specifically NOT against the law for a sitting President to hold business interests. and more importantly the US CODE excludes the president from conflict of interests laws.... THAT APPLY TO SECSTATE.
I agree.. But.. I also think that it will be his downfall that he hasn't removed himself.

He's not required to do it.. He should do it.. He won't do it.

He'll say that he never discusses business with his kids.. It won't be believed.

It's a train wreck looking for a spot to happen. And there's a sharp curve ahead.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2016, 03:14 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
25,581 posts, read 17,298,699 times
Reputation: 37349
We knew what we voted for. We knew Trump was in the hotel/resort/casino business.

Hillary tried to conceal her pay-for-play organization. When caught, she tried to deny it. 100's of thousands of dollars per speech while still holding office?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2016, 03:18 PM
 
20,462 posts, read 12,387,859 times
Reputation: 10259
you can all be sure that the left is going to beat this drum every single day for as long as TheDonald is president. This is a bout delegitimizing the man. It is the key to their access back to control of the government.


There is no other option for the left. For the next 4 years at least this is going to be the daily conversation. we will do this every single day at C-D. We will see this every single day on every single news outlet.


There will be calls for impeachment constantly because this is what PROGS do. This is the tool they have. They will not stop. period.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
9,701 posts, read 5,115,103 times
Reputation: 4270
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd View Post
wrong

short answer. NO.


Why because its against the law for a SecState to require people pay her for access.
It is specifically NOT against the law for a sitting President to hold business interests. and more importantly the US CODE excludes the president from conflict of interests laws.... THAT APPLY TO SECSTATE.
So what law did she break?

You're making up statutes that either don't exist or don't apply to her. She actually held the position. If she was breaking the conflict of interest laws, she would have been charged accordingly.

So now that we've gotten that false narrative out of the way... please answer how a foreign country putting money into one politician's pocket is considered corruption for Clinton, but not Trump?

I'm not even going to include the fact that at least Clinton Foundation donations don't actually go into the Clinton bank account, unlike payments to Trump's businesses.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2016, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
9,701 posts, read 5,115,103 times
Reputation: 4270
Quote:
Originally Posted by Listener2307 View Post
We knew what we voted for. We knew Trump was in the hotel/resort/casino business.

Hillary tried to conceal her pay-for-play organization. When caught, she tried to deny it. 100's of thousands of dollars per speech while still holding office?
So your argument is that since we know Trump is getting influenced by this surge of money going into his properties, that means his bribes are okay?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd View Post
you can all be sure that the left is going to beat this drum every single day for as long as TheDonald is president. This is a bout delegitimizing the man. It is the key to their access back to control of the government.


There is no other option for the left. For the next 4 years at least this is going to be the daily conversation. we will do this every single day at C-D. We will see this every single day on every single news outlet.


There will be calls for impeachment constantly because this is what PROGS do. This is the tool they have. They will not stop. period.
This isn't about delegitimizing him. It's about delegitimizing you, your Conservative ilk and the faux-outrage. Everytime Trump does something that you tried to use as albatross to hang around Clinton's and Obama's necks, you further make the case that all Conservatives cared about was trying to ruin their ability to succeed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:26 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top