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Once the oil shale becomes accessable, we won't have much in the way of problems.
At current rates of consumption, one of the oil shale deposits in colorado/wyoming/utah (there's a third state, i'm thinking it's utah, but i'm not 100% sure), but it has enough fuel for the united states for 100 years, not counting other oil shale deposits in the US.
I did a short wikipedia read (still doing research) but it looks like this stuff is mostly for like industrial use not to power vehicles.
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Originally Posted by Marodi
Once the oil shale becomes accessable, we won't have much in the way of problems.
At current rates of consumption, one of the oil shale deposits in colorado/wyoming/utah (there's a third state, i'm thinking it's utah, but i'm not 100% sure), but it has enough fuel for the united states for 100 years, not counting other oil shale deposits in the US.
*edit* I stand corrected, it can be used in cars and America has enough that it would last for 400 yrs at present day consumption. problem is it cost a LOT to produce
*re edit*
seems the pollution from this stuff is significant to the point of being worse than regular petrol
Last edited by Wild Style; 02-29-2008 at 07:04 PM..
Your expenses will go up $50/week by later this year just from driving, assuming 20 miles to a gallon. If that's worth it to you, then great. While people can esotericaly say that visitng family is pricesless, everyone reaches a point at which they will be forced to curtail unnecessary travel. That's the cost of cheap money and inflation, and there will be those who benefit and those who suffer.
That's only including gas and not other expenses associated with the price increase.
Actually, we get 25/26 with our SUV's -
And, we will not curtail our traveling / driving. No reason too. It's much too enjoyable for us.
Not everyone lives in the country. For lots of us, shows, people, restaurants and so on are within walking, biking and public transportation distance. Just because you don't use a car to drive a mile to the grocery store doesn't mean you don't have one or use it for longer trips...
The person I was specifically responding too indicated that he does not own a car not, does he go anywhere.
BTW - round trip to our nearest grocery store is about 28 miles. We do some planning ahead though - We don't "run to the corner market" for any milk!!
By the way, the whole thing about buying a new vehicle? You can get a credit for using alternative fuels/purchasing a car that uses alternative fuels. Comes off your tax penalty, if I recall correctly. And if you aren't giving the government too much money to start with, you will have a tax liability. I owe a few hundred, but I'd rather keep my money for week to week spending rather than give the government a tax free loan of MY money.
Did you know that, with certain conditions being met, you can buy some vehicles and get a tax credit that will come close to paying for the vehicle?
This is how we got the SUV's - they essentially costs us nothing.
They probably make about 5-6 cents per gallon profit . Would you feel better if they made 1 cent per gallon? Perhaps you should be more concerned with the taxes that are applied to each gallon of gas sold.
...and not even a single ounce of real work was put in by their part. This is where the cliche "highway robbery" ever rings so true.
And, we will not curtail our traveling / driving. No reason too. It's much too enjoyable for us.
I thought you did some advance planning? Enjoyable driving? That's an oxymoron for me, I hate to drive. But go for it. You'll help us run out of gas that much faster so that we (or our grand/great grand kids) will move on to the next energy product (electric, nuclear, solar, equine) that much faster!
I thought you did some advance planning? Enjoyable driving? That's an oxymoron for me, I hate to drive. But go for it. You'll help us run out of gas that much faster so that we (or our grand/great grand kids) will move on to the next energy product (electric, nuclear, solar, equine) that much faster!
Oh yes - driving is fun. We can explore so many different regions - stop when we like. There are times we bring the trailer and stay in campgrounds. Other times, we bring the boat so that we can enjoy the myriad of lakes -
Oh yes - driving is fun. We can explore so many different regions - stop when we like. There are times we bring the trailer and stay in campgrounds. Other times, we bring the boat so that we can enjoy the myriad of lakes -
Great. I don't enjoy driving to that extent. I would much rather stay close to home, visit with local friends, exercise, read, etc. I guess what I save in gas I spend in wine?!
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Amen...
