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Old 12-31-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by floridanative10 View Post
Donald trump may be the most unpopular president in history for the media and leftists but I have never seen the types of rallies and excitement he attracted, his florida rallies were the largest political rallies in florida history. Trump won a huge 7.5 million popular vote victory in 3,084 of the country’s 3,141 counties or county equivalents in America’s heartland as well.

When the republicans can start counting on ohio, michigan etc and a reduction in hispanic votes or more hispanics for republicans, the democrats are cooked.

The democrats now have the fewest number of state legislatures in their entire history! Republicans will enter the White House with both legislative branches in their control and their pick of a Supreme Court justice and they now have the most state-elected lawmakers in office in 100 years!

I am not a big fan of mainstream republicans but when the democratic party turned their back on the white working class, they have doomed themselves.
George Will was just dead wrong in his prediction like most pundits (democrats and republicans) on tv, you cant just hope for the browning of america and turn your back on the white working class and middle class. Its going to get worse in 2020 when all these southern states start getting more electoral votes, close to 1 out of 3 americans now live in census designated southern states.

2018 doesnt look good either for Democrats

2018 is going to be even more Democrat party misery

Reeling Democrats confront brutal 2018 Senate map

A filibuster-proof majority isn't out of the question if things break right for the GOP.

Reeling Democrats confront brutal 2018 Senate map - POLITICO
Do you honestly believe that the Republicans give a crap about the working class of any color? Most of the democrats don't care either but at least they have to pretend they do and work with the few who actually do and push some policies that help those who aren't wealthy.

A full on Republican party rule is the oligarchs dream. They will promise to fix all the problems of the working class while doing everything possible to reduce taxes on the rich, and decrease social security/medicare. The will destroy health care for average people and small employers, Obamacare has always been a right wing scapegoat, the problems of health care expenses in this country go MUCH, much deeper. I used to buy health insurance for my company, the prices went up exponentionally every single year and I left that job in 2006, long before Obamacare became the scapegoat.

Gloating about one party rule is questionable unless you are so wealthy none of the policies will affect you (like most politicians).

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Old 12-31-2016, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by floridanative10 View Post
Donald trump may be the most unpopular president in history for the media and leftists but I have never seen the types of rallies and excitement he attracted, his florida rallies were the largest political rallies in florida history. Trump won a huge 7.5 million popular vote victory in 3,084 of the country’s 3,141 counties or county equivalents in America’s heartland as well.

When the republicans can start counting on ohio, michigan etc and a reduction in hispanic votes or more hispanics for republicans, the democrats are cooked.

The democrats now have the fewest number of state legislatures in their entire history! Republicans will enter the White House with both legislative branches in their control and their pick of a Supreme Court justice and they now have the most state-elected lawmakers in office in 100 years!

I am not a big fan of mainstream republicans but when the democratic party turned their back on the white working class, they have doomed themselves.
George Will was just dead wrong in his prediction like most pundits (democrats and republicans) on tv, you cant just hope for the browning of america and turn your back on the white working class and middle class. Its going to get worse in 2020 when all these southern states start getting more electoral votes, close to 1 out of 3 americans now live in census designated southern states.

2018 doesnt look good either for Democrats

2018 is going to be even more Democrat party misery

Reeling Democrats confront brutal 2018 Senate map

A filibuster-proof majority isn't out of the question if things break right for the GOP.

Reeling Democrats confront brutal 2018 Senate map - POLITICO
I don't place too much importance in rallies, there are democratic and republican moderates that wouldn't attend a rally if their life depended on it. Yes the republicans have the largest control of any party in history, they own any outcome, no more blaming or complaining. They made a lot of promises in this election and they will be held accountable.
 
Old 12-31-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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I don't place too much importance in rallies, there are democratic and republican moderates that wouldn't attend a rally if their life depended on it. Yes the republicans have the largest control of any party in history, they own any outcome, no more blaming or complaining. They made a lot of promises in this election and they will be held accountable.
The rallies made people feel good and connected to each other. A sense of community is a nice thing and we need more of it but that's going to be over when reality sets in.

Trump can't actually bring back those manufacturing jobs, coal mines are not going to return to their heyday of high paying jobs for entire counties. Many Trump supporters will lose their health insurance and don't earn enough to benefit from the Republican idea of tax breaks. Illegals are an easy scapegoat, but come on people get real. He and his wealthy elites are not going to take money out their pockets to create decent paying jobs for Americans. Business, including Trump's will continue to use illegal and LEGAL foreign workers who accept much less pay and undercut the American workforce.

I hear and read a lot of gloating about Republicans "winning" but this is not a game, our lives are the line and all we can do is wait and see how they act. My only comfort is knowing that they must finally OWN their actions, the blame game is over. Unfortunately, I have a feeling we will see lots of delay tactics, (certainly until after 2018) along with grand promises.

If they F this up, I hope Americans will finally stop all this partison nonsense and actually come together for once and hold them all accountable.
 
Old 12-31-2016, 02:47 PM
 
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I live in a neighborhood where most of the Black population of our city lived from the 1930's-1990's. The old timers here all long for the 1950's & 1960's. If you believe them, the streets were lined with Black owned businesses, Dad's were in the home at a rate as high or higher than White family's, the church was the central focus of the neighborhood, employment was high, crime was low, drugs were virtually non-existent, there were union jobs to be had with just a HS diploma, they were buying up homes, the schools were good, their kids were starting to go off to college, the Civil Rights Movement was happening & optimism was high as they were finally getting a piece of the American dream.

Then they put the freeway right down the center of the street where the Black owned business were largely located. Then the big chains replaced them in the neighborhood. Then the factories closed & the union jobs went away. Then the drugs came in, the crime skyrocketed, the Dad's quit taking care of their kids, the schools went to hell, King was assasinated & people quit going to church. I get a lot of raised eyebrows & good natured laughs when I ask "So basically, you want to make America great again?".
The truth is, the majority of Blacks didn't have it that good in the 1950s. Even if the people in your neighborhood might have had a higher standard of living, consider this. Today, those persons have far more choices and freedoms in where they can live vs in the 1950s.

I disagree with the statement that Black fathers being at home more than White fathers were. According to the Moynihan Report, fatherlessness in the Black population was rising in the 1950s. While divorce rates in the White population were dropping in the 1950s, it was rising for Blacks. Out of wedlock births were higher for Blacks than for Whites. Things just got worse after the 1960s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ne...ational_Action

And I would look up "slum clearance" and "urban renewal". Many Black neighborhoods throughout the USA were being razed to make room for freeways. This goes back to the 1950s.
 
Old 12-31-2016, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Close to Mexico
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Why don't they sell? Huge tariffs.
Not necessarily, Europeans prefer smaller cars, particularly, station wagons. A lot has to do with the price of gas. SUV's are slowly growning in popularity though.
 
Old 12-31-2016, 05:53 PM
 
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George Will is a real genius, another worthless pundit and globalist cuckservative who got it all wrong.

From November 1st

Will, a columnist for The Washington Post, argued that a landslide win for Clinton would help Republicans by giving the party room to distance itself from divisive candidates and from the "indignation industry," as he dubbed it, of talk radio and cable personalities.

Speaking to ABC News' Jonathan Karl and Rick Klein on the "Powerhouse Politics" podcast today, Will said he was doubtful of a Republican win, barring fundamental changes in the party, starting with how Republican radio and talk show hosts speak about certain issues and groups.

"Until the Republican Party gets right with minorities in this country," Will said, "it's never going to win another presidential election."
Well alrighty then. America is right with the blacks.

Slavery is over.

Hip hip hooray.
 
Old 12-31-2016, 05:55 PM
 
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The truth is, the majority of Blacks didn't have it that good in the 1950s. Even if the people in your neighborhood might have had a higher standard of living, consider this. Today, those persons have far more choices and freedoms in where they can live vs in the 1950s.

I disagree with the statement that Black fathers being at home more than White fathers were. According to the Moynihan Report, fatherlessness in the Black population was rising in the 1950s. While divorce rates in the White population were dropping in the 1950s, it was rising for Blacks. Out of wedlock births were higher for Blacks than for Whites. Things just got worse after the 1960s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ne...ational_Action

And I would look up "slum clearance" and "urban renewal". Many Black neighborhoods throughout the USA were being razed to make room for freeways. This goes back to the 1950s.
Things just got worse after 1960 but they got better but they are still worse.

Hoop. Jump.
 
Old 12-31-2016, 07:45 PM
 
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I know. Isn't it wonderful! I bought a boatload of GS stock in June 2012 at $92/share. YEsterday it closed at $239/share!!

HAppy days! Thank you Pres Elect Trump!!
Bully for you.

The President-elect may make it necessary to expand the definition for 'Moral Hazard'. The more commonly accepted definition - 'Moral hazard is the risk of a party, insulated from risk, behaving differently from the way it would have behaved if it were fully exposed to the risk', may not be sufficient to describe the new normal.

Either way, the increase in inherent systemic risks, including moral hazardous ones will likely lead into yet another systemic failure.

Not to worry, those who are already insulated from systemic risks will also be insulated from systemic failures.

Everyone else can always serve as butlers or household servants if jobs get scarce.
 
Old 01-01-2017, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Unless you are part of the Goldman elite, you'll suffer as a result. Goldman doesnt care about small fish and the 99%. They'll crush you, the economy and anyone else in their way to total global domination. First up is America. In America, we cant vote against Goldman Sachs. They hedge their bets and now the working stiffs must pay the consequences for voting them into office instead of voting for people that represent the interests of the 99%. If you vote for the billionaire class you get the preferred policies of the billionaire class.
A large portion of the Democrats' core clientele still believes that most of our wealth is, at best, represented by equities like stocks and bonds, or if the lumpenproletariat is still playing in the economic bush leagues, by a huge pile of cash in a vault, ready to be seized and redistributed. They can't grasp that most of it underwrites not only insurance and private pensions, but all manner of institutions.

I used to help manage about $2 million -- as the perpetual care fund of a non-profit cemetery -- which generated paychecks for 3-5 employees, depending upon the time of year. And there are hundreds of thousands of such marginal players. not to mention the larger players (Case in point; Harvard University -- about $45 billion last time I looked).

This is how (privatized) socialism has already come to a large, and constantly increasing sector of the economy of every First World nation. And it has worked better than anything else yet devised. And it can simply dry up and disappear, leaving us all much worse off, if the "share the wealth" crowd overplays their hand.

If Mr. PCAL can come up with a logical rebuttal, I'm eager to hear it.
 
Old 01-01-2017, 05:20 AM
 
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A large portion of the Democrats' core clientele still believes that most of our wealth is, at best, represented by equities like stocks and bonds, or if the lumpenproletariat is still playing in the economic bush leagues, by a huge pile of cash in a vault, ready to be seized and redistributed. They can't grasp that most of it underwrites not only insurance and private pensions, but all manner of institutions.
Which should be scary as there really isn't anything actually there. Just paper promises.

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I used to help manage about $2 million -- as the perpetual care fund of a non-profit cemetery -- which generated paychecks for 3-5 employees, depending upon the time of year. And there are hundreds of thousands of such marginal players. not to mention the larger players (Case in point; Harvard University -- about $45 billion last time I looked).

This is how (privatized) socialism has already come to a large, and constantly increasing sector of the economy of every First World nation. And it has worked better than anything else yet devised. And it can simply dry up and disappear, leaving us all much worse off, if the "share the wealth" crowd overplays their hand.
It was the middle class that had their pockets picked to prop up this Socialist program. People b*tch about Socialism until they want it to help them.
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