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No two state solution. The land belongs to God, and He gave it to the Jewish people; it's all written in the Bible.
If God gave it to them, that brings up a few questions that you can't answer...
If God gave it to them, why were other people able to occupy it.
If God gave it to them, why didn't he put them on that land in the first place instead of making them have to fight for it in bloody wars TWICE...once to take it from the dozens of tribes that occupied it in the Pre-Judaic period, and again after Second World War. I mean, since God is omniscient, didn't he know that he'd eventually give that land to the Jews anyway? So why not just give it to them in the first place?
If he gave them that land, why did he allow so many of them to be exiled into nations that would not only persecute them, but kill millions of them.
If he gave them that land, why he allowing them to be harassed and pestered constantly by petulant neighbors and regional foes? Why doesn't he just kill all of their enemies so they can live in peace?
Get back to geopolitics, and leave the religion out of it.
No two state solution. The land belongs to God, and He gave it to the Jewish people; it's all written in the Bible.
The Earth being magiced into existence in a week is also in the bible and that's verifiably false. The Bible is not supposed to guide policy decisions.
It's not the first time nor the last time the entire world is wrong.
The biggest obstacle is Palestinian refusal of a Jewish state. Been that way long before there were settlements.
They've recognized Israel many many times. Every time the far right in Israel have upped the ante on what recognition really means. Meanwhile they continue to attempt to change the facts on the ground through settlement building and still refuse to recognize Palestinian rights.
They've recognized Israel many many times. Every time the far right in Israel have upped the ante on what recognition really means. Meanwhile they continue to attempt to change the facts on the ground through settlement building and still refuse to recognize Palestinian rights.
Every peace plan rejected.
Sorry, but at the end of the day that's what it comes down to for me. Rejection equals refusal. There have been fair offers for peace and a two state solution. All rejected because the Palestinians can not accept sharing land with Jews. That is the main obstacle.
Sorry, but at the end of the day that's what it comes down to for me. Rejection equals refusal. There have been fair offers for peace and a two state solution. All rejected because the Palestinians can not accept sharing land with Jews. That is the main obstacle.
As my British friends say, rubbish. The act of rejecting an offer equates to not wanting peace and settlement? Israel has rejected the Arab league peace offering which was accepted by nearly every Arab country except Libya. Does that make them rejectors of peace as well?
They've recognized Israel many many times. Every time the far right in Israel have upped the ante on what recognition really means. Meanwhile they continue to attempt to change the facts on the ground through settlement building and still refuse to recognize Palestinian rights.
They refuse recognize Israel as a Jewish state. I have no problem recognizing Palestine as a Muslim state.
I missed the vote or poll of the entire world, can you provide the link?
I should have been more specific. The entire recognized world of States and countries as represented by the UN Security Council. I suppose we left out rogue states and entities such as ISIS, the Taliban, and others.
As my British friends say, rubbish. The act of rejecting an offer equates to not wanting peace and settlement? Israel has rejected the Arab league peace offering which was accepted by nearly every Arab country except Libya. Does that make them rejectors of peace as well?
By your logic it does.
You mean the Arab league offer that would effectively settle all those who fled in 48 into Israel Proper, and create separate West Bank and Gaza Palestinian entities?
That was rejected? No way.
Im talking about legit 2 state solutions. A negotiated peace plan requires actual negotiations. The Arab League plan was anything but a 2 sate solution.
Israel said no to an unfair resolution one time. "Palestine" said no in 48, 67, 73, 2008, and for the foreseeable future.
Last edited by RubyTwo; 12-30-2016 at 11:43 AM..
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