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Old 01-03-2017, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Don't wish too hard. You may get what you wish for. I've heard this time and time again.

Rep. Kevin McCarthy of Bakersfield California was on Morning Joe this morning exploring all of the options regarding the repeal of Obama care. He seemed determined to start the repeal process without including the options that people find acceptable.

The question that screams to be asked is: Once Obamacare is repealed, how many years will it take to re-institute those provisions that the public likes and needs?

Are you one of the twenty million who now has insurance under Obamacare?
What are your thoughts?

How many people will die because of preexisting conditions?
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Don't wish too hard. You may get what you wish for. I've heard this time and time again.

Rep. Kevin McCarthy of Bakersfield California was on Morning Joe this morning exploring all of the options regarding the repeal of Obama care. He seemed determined to start the repeal process without including the options that people find acceptable.

The question that screams to be asked is: Once Obamacare is repealed, how many years will it take to re-institute those provisions that the public likes and needs?

Are you one of the twenty million who now has insurance under Obamacare?
What are your thoughts?

How many people will die because of preexisting conditions?
The Repubs will have to replace ACA with something that does not throw 20 Million people of their insurance, to do otherwise would be political suicide, trump may not care about that but the Repubs running Congress do.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:29 AM
 
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The Repubs will have to replace ACA with something that does not throw 20 Million people of their insurance, to do otherwise would be political suicide, trump may not care about that but the Repubs running Congress do.
We'll see.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:32 AM
 
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Sorry, but to hell with the 20 million.

I'm more worried about the millions more that HAD insurance, and lost it to a ridiculous deductible they'll likely never meet. You know, the people that actually pay full price for it.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:40 AM
 
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Rep. Kevin McCarthy of Bakersfield California was on Morning Joe this morning exploring all of the options regarding the repeal of Obama care. He seemed determined to start the repeal process without including the options that people find acceptable....
Morning Joe was observed at Trump's New Year's Eve party talking to people. He launched into a twitter tirade about how he was "not partying with Trump," but there on business and anyone who said otherwise was telling a lie.

Quite bizarre. If you are wandering through a party, chatting with people at the party, that's pretty much the definition of "partying."

Not nearly as bizarre as repealing ACA, but after literally dozens of attempts, it is difficult to imagine the Republicans holding back now.

In the sprit of bipartisan cooperation, I hope the Democrats abstain from voting and let them have at it.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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The debate in the House could go on for a long time because of the numbers involved. If a repeal without the restoration of the good provisions makes it through the house and Senate quickly, we will see if Trump is the kind of President that those who elected him hoped for.

Remember that Trump promised that he would not sign a repeal without keeping the good provisions as part of the repeal bill.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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The Repubs will have to replace ACA with something that does not throw 20 Million people of their insurance, to do otherwise would be political suicide, trump may not care about that but the Repubs running Congress do.
With apologies to Admiral Yamamoto, The Republicans can run wild for about two years, after that I make no guarantees.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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From what I've read, Obamacare was so craftily put together, it's all but impossible to have it repealed, and from what I read in the paper yesterday, it would take 4 years to kill it!

Oscar Wilde: When God wishes to punish you, he answers your prayers.

Think of all the prayers that were answered by Trump voters!
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:22 AM
 
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The debate in the House could go on for a long time because of the numbers involved. If a repeal without the restoration of the good provisions makes it through the house and Senate quickly, we will see if Trump is the kind of President that those who elected him hoped for.

Remember that Trump promised that he would not sign a repeal without keeping the good provisions as part of the repeal bill.
Trump has promised a lot of things.

They might all realize that anything that needed to be said, has been, many time over. So let's get on with it. Time's a wasting. Lot to do and a short time to do it.

Democrats could stand down and let the Republicans have it with ACA, Medicare, Social Security, Food Stamps...

This would give voters a chance to see if this is what they really want.
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:42 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Trump has promised a lot of things.

They might all realize that anything that needed to be said, has been, many time over. So let's get on with it. Time's a wasting. Lot to do and a short time to do it.

Democrats could stand down and let the Republicans have it with ACA, Medicare, Social Security, Food Stamps...

This would give voters a chance to see if this is what they really want.
Or maybe the Democrats could do something that they failed to do when Obamacare was first designed/implemented which is to have BOTH sides participate instead of just one. Isn't that what government was designed to do, represent BOTH sides?

How's about that idea?
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