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Old 02-20-2017, 04:53 AM
 
Location: Finland
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100% fair of you to criticize, but the government isn't giving out statistics on refugees that commit crimes, the government won't give out any statistics based on race or religion or citizenship status -- but there is evidence that crime is soaring due to refugees and the far right responding to refugees.




So, Sweden has the self-proclaimed world's first feminist government - that rips Trump a new one for his pathetic words, while turning a blind eye to the increase in rapes, decrease in rape convictions, increase in pregnant child brides, increase in clitoris mutilation, and increase in violence against women all within their own borders while wearing hijabs around Muslims...and that is modern day liberalism.
Look at the stats: https://www.bra.se/bra/brott-och-sta...ecklingen.html

The level of crime in Sweden has been stagnant since 2005.
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Old 02-20-2017, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Houston
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EVERY time.
Every.single.time.

I think to myself, "Wow! Maybe I should listen to this person and what they have to say. That stat is scary."

Then I find out its either a lie, a twisted half truth or an amalgamation of facts designed to tell a certain story.

Hey Trump peeps, start using better sources to inform your opinions!
Trump supporters using fake news??? Oh my!
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:14 AM
 
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But if what you all say is true, then why do these governments choose not to readily bring out reports on crime based on race/religion etc.? If they don't have anything to fear than they shouldn't worry about anything.
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Pixley
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So the stats are bogus but Trump supporters are desperately tying to justify one of his babbled facts so with links and information Trump doesn't have an never saw, in an effort to explain to us as to what he *meant*.

In any event, did all the crime occur on Friday night?

What did happen Friday night that he is talking about? He saw a fake news report.

I know Trump supporters like Trump's plain talk, but as POTUS, he should at least be able to put one sentence together so we all know what he is talking about rather than have people on the internet explain to us "what he meant".
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:27 AM
 
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He misspoke ---......AGAIN.

Look -- he's older, I think he gets a little excited and just says things. Because he was elected President making up all kinds of stuff, twisting the truth -- he thinks he still can do it.

The Hillary gave away 20% of American uranium is the funniest. That was fact checked to the moon and back and was proven to not be anything but he still is using that same story.

Someone told him he won by more electoral votes predicted and he heard most electoral votes ever.

He heard a story about Sweden and figured something must have happened.

For the record -- we aren't Sweden - -and we check the refugees. Why doesn't Fox do a story on Canada and their crime rate since letting in on the refugees.
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:28 AM
 
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There are govt reports and main stream media reports - and then there is the truth. Ariete will have us believe that Muslims immigrating to Sweden have been a driving force for crime going down in that country. That is the way the liberal left operates.
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Finland
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But if what you all say is true, then why do these governments choose not to readily bring out reports on crime based on race/religion etc.? If they don't have anything to fear than they shouldn't worry about anything.
Because most European countries doesn't collect data on race and religion. The Holocaust taught us that it's not a very good idea.

The police in Finland has actually done a couple of studies based on nationality.

Taulukko 32. Väestöön kuuluvien ulkomaalaistaustaisten rikosluvut kunnittain 2013.
Rikokset kunnassa /osus kaikista rikoksista
Lukumäärä kunnassa /osuus väkiluvusta
Helsinki
6987 / 15,9 %
80610 / 13,2 %


Here's a quick stat from Helsinki, Finland. 15.9% of crime is done by immigrants and immigrants are 13.2% of the population. (In 2013.)
Not much overrepresentation there at all. Keep in mind that the population pyramid is different from native-borns (much younger) and thus commit more crimes.

Last edited by Ariete; 02-20-2017 at 05:45 AM..
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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But if what you all say is true, then why do these governments choose not to readily bring out reports on crime based on race/religion etc.? If they don't have anything to fear than they shouldn't worry about anything.
Because crime simply isn't an issue of race or religion, but rather an issue of poverty, education and the upbringing in general.
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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There are govt reports and main stream media reports - and then there is the truth. Ariete will have us believe that Muslims immigrating to Sweden have been a driving force for crime going down in that country. That is the way the liberal left operates.
Where did he say that? I think you lack basic reading comprehension skills. Does he have to put it in 140 characters for you to understand?
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:33 AM
 
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Because crime simply isn't an issue of race or religion, but rather an issue of poverty, education and the upbringing in general.
And that's the crux of it.

Not sure conservatives & our President understands what this means.

Don't forget President Trump has probably lived one of the most privileged lives and in a bubble. He has only lived in New York and has only been wealthy.
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