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Old 08-25-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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John C. Danforth, ex-Republican U.S. senator from Missouri, has written a scathing article about Trump,
referring to him as "the most divisive president in our history".

I'd like your thoughts on this article. I'd particularly like to hear from 'traditional' Republicans that may agree with him.

He's not the only Republican who has been scathing of Trump in recent weeks.
Danforth states in the article that "our party has been corrupted by this hateful man, and it is now in peril".

The article makes me wonder how many Republicans exactly think that their party has been tainted, perhaps permanently by this man?
I'm struck by just how far the Republican party has changed just in a few short years - that's if Trump is what the party now represents? Perhaps you disagree? Trump could not be more of a polar opposite from Mitt Romney for example.


Here's where I disagree with the article though.
He says that Trump:
Quote:
stands in opposition to the founding principle of our party — that of a united country.
Personally I think the rot set in with Mitch McConnell. I think HE is extremely divisive. He was the person responsible for much of the obstruction that happened in the previous 8 years. I lay a lot of the fault at his hands in setting the parties against each other. I don't think he was ever interested in a united country.
I can't understand how he has gotten away with it for so long.
Thoughts?

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Old 08-25-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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The whole Trump phenomenon reminds me of a really bad episode of Jerry Springer. Watch Donald Drumph say something shocking and get huge applause. Tune in next week for another episode! Because everything week it's a new scandal with this orange turd.
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Old 08-25-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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Donald Trump is on display like the character he played on The Apprentice. He's not running the country. He's still a media loving hog (he'll have you think otherwise though).
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Old 08-25-2017, 01:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Cruithne View Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.ddfea0fe0576

John C. Danforth, ex-Republican U.S. senator from Missouri, has written a scathing article about Trump,
referring to him as "the most divisive president in our history".

I'd like your thoughts on this article. I'd particularly like to hear from 'traditional' Republicans that may agree with him.

He's not the only Republican who has been scathing of Trump in recent weeks.
Danforth states in the article that "our party has been corrupted by this hateful man, and it is now in peril".

The article makes me wonder how many Republicans exactly think that their party has been tainted, perhaps permanently by this man?
I'm struck by just how far the Republican party has changed just in a few short years - that's if Trump is what the party now represents? Perhaps you disagree? Trump could not be more of a polar opposite from Mitt Romney for example.

Here's where I disagree with the article though.
He says that Trump:
Personally I think the rot set in with Mitch McConnell. I think HE is extremely divisive. He was the person responsible for much of the obstruction that happened in the previous 8 years. I lay a lot of the fault at his hands in setting the parties against each other. I don't think he was ever interested in a united country.
I can't understand how he has gotten away with it for so long.
Thoughts?
It's a good question but there are very few Republicans on this site. Plenty of Trump supporters - but Trump is no Republican. He is trying to distance himself as fast as he can from mainstream American values, whether Republican or Democrat. This guy talks like Trump is some new phenomena, but his tactics are as old as the hills. Divide and conquer has been used throughout history.
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Old 08-25-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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Danforth is right. The whole party is complicit. They made him their nominee, now they're waking up with fleas.

I feel badly for the principled republicans out there, although none of them seem to be in office currently. Perhaps they can rebuild their party.
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Old 08-25-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh!
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Old 08-25-2017, 01:56 PM
 
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Danforth is right. The whole party is complicit. They made him their nominee, now they're waking up with fleas.

I feel badly for the principled republicans out there, although none of them seem to be in office currently. Perhaps they can rebuild their party.
While I feel badly for principled Republicans, you have to remember that they are the ones that cozied up to the Far Right crazies over the last few decades in order to squeeze out a few more votes. They thought they could use them like pawns to win elections, and it worked for awhile. Now they have Trump on their hands, and he is going to tear their party apart.
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Old 08-25-2017, 01:58 PM
 
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Independent here, who leans conservative.

The real conflict I see with Trump vs the Republican Party is that as bizarre as his personality is and how concerning his behavior can be, he also has had the courage to actually try and get controversial policies through and expose the corruption, insanity, and anarchy of the left and their media that the Rs have been too chicken to dare to actually do. The Rs cower in fear of being called racist if they even enforce our immigration laws or islamaphobes/bigots if they crack down on Muslim terrorists. The left has turned the Rs into wimp pudding.

So has Trump made the Rs now to be even more wimpy and ineffectual scaredycats with his bizarre behavior, or have they learned that conservatives will enthusiastically support politicians with the courage to actually be a conservative (but act civily and not recklessly like Trump) and not just be RINOs??
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Old 08-25-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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He is pathetic and wants sympathy.
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Old 08-25-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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Independent here, who leans conservative.

The real conflict I see with Trump vs the Republican Party is that as bizarre as his personality is and how concerning his behavior can be, he also has had the courage to actually try and get controversial policies through and expose the corruption, insanity, and anarchy of the left and their media that the Rs have been too chicken to dare to actually do. The Rs cower in fear of being called racist if they even enforce our immigration laws or islamaphobes/bigots if they crack down on Muslim terrorists. The left has turned the Rs into wimp pudding.

So has Trump made the Rs now to be even more wimpy and ineffectual scaredycats with his bizarre behavior, or have they learned that conservatives will enthusiastically support politicians with the courage to actually be a conservative (but act civily and not recklessly like Trump) and not just be RINOs??
That is the 'real conflict'? Trump is corrupt as they come, so he hardly can be credited for exposing any corruption other than his own.
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