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Old 02-26-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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The attitude is on purpose, it makes someone up to something feel more under pressure, and display signs of deception. A friendly attitude makes someone feel comfortable, which makes deception easier. Of course there is a line, but the attitude thing is on purpose.
Didn't draw any conclusions, just pointing out that this happened to non-citizens even before Obama, and even before 9/11. So pointing fingers at the current admin is probably a little misplaced.
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Old 02-26-2017, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Early America
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“I am old and white, innocent and educated, and I speak English fluently,” she said. “Imagine what happened to the others in the room, including an old Iranian woman in her 80s, in a wheelchair.
So basically, she imagined that she was treated better than the others because she's white and educated. But she's just guessing. How did they know she is educated? Was that the first thing that came out of her mouth?

Why did she assume the Iranian woman is uneducated, or that she can't speak english?

The author sounds like a bigot.
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Old 02-26-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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So basically, she imagined that she was treated better than the others because she's white and educated. But she's just guessing. How did they know she is educated? Was that the first thing that came out of her mouth?

Why did she assume the Iranian woman is uneducated, or that she can't speak english?

The author sounds like a bigot.
She was there with them for 2 hours. You weren't. Who should we be more inclined to believe?
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Old 02-26-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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This would be the correct answer. If she's passed over solely because she's white, English speaking, educated and elderly, then that would be profiling.

Actually in my experience of entering the US as a non-citizen a lot of immigration guys have a seriously bad attitude, and my experience comes from 2009 and earlier since then I've always re-entered the US on my US passport. So the "turbocharged power" existed IMHO long before Trump.
She's visited the US, upwards of 100 times, and had never been treated like that. Its not difficult to see why the conclusion has been drawn that - with recent "bans" that this is a result.
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Old 02-26-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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She's visited the US, upwards of 100 times, and had never been treated like that. Its not difficult to see why the conclusion has been drawn that - with recent "bans" that this is a result.
She'll get over it.
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Old 02-26-2017, 03:02 PM
 
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She'll get over it.
I'm sure she will.

But will we?

Why in God's name would we ever condone our employees being rude and disrespectful?
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Old 02-26-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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She'll get over it.
I am sure she will.

I'm more interested, why she was detained in the first place.
What a waste of your resources, questioning a 70 year old woman, travelling on an Australian passport, to the US for the 117th time.
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Old 02-26-2017, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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That is why I refuse to fly. I will not put up with being treated as though they KNOW I am a criminal, until I prove that I am not!
If I can't get there in a wheeled vehicle, I just ain't going, period!
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Old 02-26-2017, 03:32 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I am sure she will.

I'm more interested, why she was detained in the first place.
What a waste of your resources, questioning a 70 year old woman, travelling on an Australian passport, to the US for the 117th time.
There was a visa error. She shouldn't be treated any differently than anyone else trying to enter the country with an unacceptable visa.
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Old 02-26-2017, 03:37 PM
 
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There was a visa error. She shouldn't be treated any differently than anyone else trying to enter the country with an unacceptable visa.
No, there wasn't

"They accused me of coming in on the wrong visa and they were totally wrong about that."

Mem Fox, Australian author, gets apology after being wrongfully detained at LA airport - Donald Trump's America - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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