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Old 03-02-2017, 01:45 AM
 
Location: So California
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(Referring to post #819)

So what? The women Democrats dressed in white. Surely you can come up with a better criticism than that. Oh no, you can't; they are women, and a woman is nothing but her appearance, right? Anyway, Trump gave a great speech. I think calling out Carryn Owens was political pandering, however. His speech was long on hyperbole and short on specifics. I wonder how he thinks he will pay for all his grandiose ideas. Perhaps his billionaire cabinet appointees will make some donations to his pet causes
The democrats came across as petulant children and they are getting roasted for it. To the general public they look like fools.
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:03 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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I honestly couldn't be more proud of him. This was truly presidential, and spoke to the better angels in all of us.

If Trump can rise above his own juvenile behavior and immaturity that comes through at times, he has a vision to be the greatest President in any of our lifetimes.

What's amazing is that he is a perfect reflection of our flawed culture - its heights, failings, everything. The thing is when people see Donald Trump, they see themselves, the reality TV star, the man that has everything - he is everything most want to be, yet his attitude is nothing many want to be. It is a conundrum, and what makes him the perfect President for this day and age.
Huh?? This coming from a one calling themselves "Serious Conversation"...
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:14 AM
 
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Trump bought time with others, his time ran out on me awhile back. He has a lot to do and not all can be done through executive orders. He has to govern and get Congress on track. The ObamaCare fixes or replacement has to be ready to be signed by October of next year or else we will see Republicans lose office. I don't see the town hall anger going anywhere if it isn't taken into consideration.
" He has a lot to do and not all can be done through executive orders."

Cancelling a LOT of Obama's orders is a darn good start, for me.
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:23 AM
 
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Trump: "Wow, we really screwed up in Yemen. Let's do an over-the-top extended emotional tribute to the widow to deflect from the mission failure."
IMO, people who do NOT appreciate the sacrifice of our military, and especially those that pay the ultimate price are scumbags.

Keep in mind, it WAS AN OBAMA OKed PLAN.

Yes, Trump gave the OK, but is IS on Obama's shoulders.

Just like it was W, Bush program that got OBL, and Obama took CREDIT for it.

If you are going to take credit for something you had very little to do with, then you had better take the "heat" for a plan you OKed and went bad.
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:27 AM
 
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Trump: let's move to a "merit-based" immigration system. In other words, Trump wants to increase H1-B visas. Corporations love H1-B's because they accept low salaries. They take jobs away from American college grads.
Back it up.

Give us the salaries of ALL these grads, Americans and FOREIGNERS.

Give us the courses and the GPA of ALL these grads.

If you CAN'T back it up, you are only spouting off because of you political biases.
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:28 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Van Jones said the same thing. And if he says it you know it's true.
And Van got nothing but hate from his buddies on the left...
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:30 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Trump didn't give a great speech. His speech writer gave a great speech. The only thing he did was sedate his inner crazy and uncontrollable need to go off the deep end, and read the teleprompter in front of him. Additionally, any person can do a quick online search and see that during his presidential campaign, he repeatedly and openly mocked the ability to "act presidential", stating that he could do so at any point in time. Feel free to do a search online and look for his speech from when he was campaigning in Waterbury, Connecticut. This was a perfect example.

The only thing Trump did last night was do exactly what he said he could do: play the part.

Folks, don't be deceived: You can dress a jack ass up to look like a champion horse. But at the end of the day, it's still a jackass. Nothing more.
Worked for the king of the Teleprompter for the last 8 years so you may have something there...
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Van Jones said the same thing. And if he says it you know it's true.
I thought CNN was fake news?

Or wait, is it just fake news when it goes against Trump, but when folks are praising him, it's real news? Is that how it works?
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:35 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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IMO, people who do NOT appreciate the sacrifice of our military, and especially those that pay the ultimate price are scumbags.

Keep in mind, it WAS AN OBAMA OKed PLAN.

Yes, Trump gave the OK, but is IS on Obama's shoulders.

Just like it was W, Bush program that got OBL, and Obama took CREDIT for it.

If you are going to take credit for something you had very little to do with, then you had better take the "heat" for a plan you OKed and went bad.
Let's also note that the mission couldn't go forward when Obama was still in office due to a requirement that there be a quarter moon (low light). The first one was AFTER Obama left office so the mission went at the first opportunity.
There are reports that they knew the team was coming, if true THAT is something that needs to be investigated...
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:45 AM
 
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Do people actually believe some or all of what Trump is saying? Is that why people seem to think so positively of his speech?

Here are some facts that were checked:
- In his first address to a joint session of Congress, President Donald Trump stuck closely to his prepared remarks, but ran afoul of the facts in some cases.

- Trump said the U.S. has spent $6 trillion in the Middle East and “with this $6 trillion we could have rebuilt our country.” The amount spent so far is $1.7 trillion, according to the Defense Department.

- He cherry-picked the findings of a recent report, saying it found immigration costs U.S. taxpayers “billions of dollars a year.” The report said immigration “has an overall positive impact on long-run economic growth.”

- Trump said “94 million Americans are out of the labor force,” a figure that includes the retired, college students and stay-at-home parents. The vast majority — 88.5 million — said they didn’t want a job.

- Trump said he would “promote clean air and clean water,” a vague claim that came hours after he had signed an executive order to roll back a 2015 “Clean Water Rule.”

- And the president repeated claims we’ve fact-checked before on border security, welfare, job creation since he was elected, health insurance and crime. For instance, he said the U.S. left “our own borders wide open, for anyone to cross.” But the border patrol budget and number of agents have both doubled since 2001.

Trump’s Address to Congress
And who checks the "fact checkers"?

"FactCheck.org is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania."

They use undergrads to do the 'research.

As most know our universities toady lean, no tilt, VERY FAR LEFT, so their, "findings" might be a bit biased.

"[SIZE=+1]Factcheck.org -- A Fraudulent "Fact Check" Site Funded By Biased Political Group[/SIZE]

Factcheck.org -- A Fraudulent "Fact Check" Site Funded By Biased Political Group

Granted Free republic is a right leaning group so do your OWN research and decide for your self BEFORE believing ANY of the "fact Checkers".
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