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Old 03-12-2017, 11:30 PM
 
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I guess you missed this part of the thread:
That would be a correct guess. Ah well, don't read the whole thread before commenting stick your foot in your mouth.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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Did you?? Ahmad Daqamseh was a soldier guarding a place called the "Island of Peace". Baruch Goldstein was a Ultra Orthodox right wing nut civilian from the US who belongs to a banned extremist party. A few hundred people attended his funeral but there was no public celebration for what he did. There is no comparison between the two situations.

Israeli soldiers tear down shrine to killer
AM Archive - Israeli soldiers tear down shrine to killer

There a YT videos of it from '99, but they are dated '15 & '16 for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ohMB-_1lPM
Pruz...you know and I know that you're white washing the incident.

Settlers in Hebron are still celebrating and memorializing that murderer:

Settlers remember gunman Goldstein; Hebron riots continue - Haaretz - Israel News | Haaretz.com

And even settlers in East Jerusalem:

Ynetnews News - Sheikh Jarrah Jews praise Baruch Goldstein on Purim

"A video obtained by Ynet depicts Jewish residents of east Jerusalem's Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood during their Purim celebrations singing songs of praise for Baruch Goldstein, a Jewish terrorist who murdered 29 Palestinians 16 years ago at the Cave of the Patriarchs."

I don't know why you'd choose to white-wash and sweep under the rug these sick people in your society. I'll say unabashedly that if any Arab or Muslim celebrates that what the OP brought up, they are extremely misguided, an embarrassment to our Ummah and don't represent us. Unfortunately they do exist...*but* these sorts of people exist on both sides.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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Did you?? Ahmad Daqamseh was a soldier guarding a place called the "Island of Peace". Baruch Goldstein was a Ultra Orthodox right wing nut civilian from the US who belongs to a banned extremist party. A few hundred people attended his funeral but there was no public celebration for what he did. There is no comparison between the two situations.

Israeli soldiers tear down shrine to killer
AM Archive - Israeli soldiers tear down shrine to killer

There a YT videos of it from '99, but they are dated '15 & '16 for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ohMB-_1lPM
And on a side note, I personally visited the Tel Rumeida settlement...and let's just say after that experience I have every reason to believe that many people there would support people like Baruch Goldstein and ascribe to Kahane ideology. The people there thought I was apart of a Christian group that wanted to lend a helping hand to the Palestinian locals and I was told point blank, "F*CK YOUR JESUS...WE KILLED THAT BASTARD...GOD GAVE THIS LAND TO ME!"...

I also met Jews whom were warm, intelligent, thoughtful and lived with humanity and decency. Societies, especially in conflict zones and regions, come with people from all stripes.
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Old 03-13-2017, 10:17 AM
 
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Pruz...you know and I know that you're white washing the incident.

Settlers in Hebron are still celebrating and memorializing that murderer:

Settlers remember gunman Goldstein; Hebron riots continue - Haaretz - Israel News | Haaretz.com

And even settlers in East Jerusalem:

Ynetnews News - Sheikh Jarrah Jews praise Baruch Goldstein on Purim

"A video obtained by Ynet depicts Jewish residents of east Jerusalem's Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood during their Purim celebrations singing songs of praise for Baruch Goldstein, a Jewish terrorist who murdered 29 Palestinians 16 years ago at the Cave of the Patriarchs."

I don't know why you'd choose to white-wash and sweep under the rug these sick people in your society. I'll say unabashedly that if any Arab or Muslim celebrates that what the OP brought up, they are extremely misguided, an embarrassment to our Ummah and don't represent us. Unfortunately they do exist...*but* these sorts of people exist on both sides.

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And on a side note, I personally visited the Tel Rumeida settlement...and let's just say after that experience I have every reason to believe that many people there would support people like Baruch Goldstein and ascribe to Kahane ideology. The people there thought I was apart of a Christian group that wanted to lend a helping hand to the Palestinian locals and I was told point blank, "F*CK YOUR JESUS...WE KILLED THAT BASTARD...GOD GAVE THIS LAND TO ME!"...

I also met Jews whom were warm, intelligent, thoughtful and lived with humanity and decency. Societies, especially in conflict zones and regions, come with people from all stripes.
As I've told you before in other threads, these few 100 people are not representative of Israelis as nearly all of them are Ultra Orthodox right wing nuts from the US. They are worse than Kahane had ever been. I'd take them and the followers of Hamas, lock them all in the same room and throw away the key. That being said, if a single Arab country can put out a long list of groups they consider Terrorists and not one of them is Israel connected then the world has a major problem and it's not pipsqueak Israel.

List of groups designated terrorist organisations by the UAE | The National
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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As I've told you before in other threads, these few 100 people are not representative of Israelis as nearly all of them are Ultra Orthodox right wing nuts from the US. They are worse than Kahane had ever been. I'd take them and the followers of Hamas, lock them all in the same room and throw away the key. That being said, if a single Arab country can put out a long list of groups they consider Terrorists and not one of them is Israel connected then the world has a major problem and it's not pipsqueak Israel.

List of groups designated terrorist organisations by the UAE | The National
Oh no argument there. We have a terrorism and deviance problem. No doubt about it. However we are 1.6 Billion and growing while Jews are a sliver of that.

Unfortunately however it only takes 1 or 2 people to make significant impacts with their actions.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:28 PM
 
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It's not a crappy neighborhood though...it's one of the best neighborhoods in NYC.
I'm sure the houses are nice, but I wouldn't want to live around a bunch of mobsters. It sounds detrimental to your health.
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