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Old 03-14-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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Meanwhile Germany, Switzerland, Canada, UK, Netherlands and Denmark have all been using heroin assisted treatments (HAT) for a long time now and have seen a significant social impact and patient benefits after treating opiate addicts with heroin. The US is literally in the middle of a horrible epidemic of opiate addiction and crime related to it so why do we continue to let moralists oppose and block the use of things like heroin, marijuana etc. for therapy?




Canada now allows prescription heroin in severe opioid addiction - British Columbia - CBC News

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/drug-tre...mments37819830

New heroin-assisted treatment | www.emcdda.europa.eu

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Old 03-14-2017, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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They have some really big problems with addiction. I don't know, how they stop later.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:41 PM
 
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I'm no health care professional, and certainly no addiction specialist, so I will try to keep an open mind, but honestly...this sounds a little bit like trying to put out a fire by dousing it with gasoline. Isn't heroin also an opiate?
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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Public perception and the unwinnable "war on drugs".

There is one place where I really hope Trump "drains the swamp" and that is the DEA along with major repeals to federal drug laws. Criminalizing it not only is ineffective at preventing addiction but also greatly exacerbates our border problem and empowers drug cartels.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:45 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Heroin is one of the most addictive substances on the planet. I think meth is the only thing worse (yet that is given to children for depression and ADHD).

Marijuana on the other hand should be strongly advocated for as a treatment for opioid addiction.

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There is one place where I really hope Trump "drains the swamp" and that is the DEA along with major repeals to federal drug laws. Criminalizing it not only is ineffective at preventing addiction but also greatly exacerbates our border problem and empowers drug cartels.
I would like to see that as well, but there is no way it happens without the Christian Right throwing a tizzy, so policy as usual will likely continue.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Why does America ban the use of heroin for therapeutic intervention?

Short answer:

Because the right people wouldn't get richer.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:48 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I think meth is the only thing worse (yet that is given to children for depression and ADHD).
Where is the proof of this and what is your source of information?
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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I'm no health care professional, and certainly no addiction specialist, so I will try to keep an open mind, but honestly...this sounds a little bit like trying to put out a fire by dousing it with gasoline. Isn't heroin also an opiate?


Yes heroin is an opiate, but so is methadone. There are many patients who simply never respond or do not tolerate methadone and virtually any other intervention. It seems counter intuitive, but heroin can be given therapeutically under strict supervision to help patients with addiction. At least then they're getting pharmaceutical grade heroin under the watch of a physician. Countries who have adopted this type of treatment have seen statistically significant social benefits such as reduction of both crimes committed and deaths due to opiate addiction. Many people get addicted not to heroin , but prescription opiate drugs and current interventions to treat addiction simply not might work for some of those people.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:51 PM
 
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Where is the proof of this and what is your source of information?
Neuroscientist: Meth Is Virtually Identical to Adderall
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:52 PM
 
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Heroin is one of the most addictive substances on the planet. I think meth is the only thing worse (yet that is given to children for depression and ADHD).

Marijuana on the other hand should be strongly advocated for as a treatment for opioid addiction.



I would like to see that as well, but there is no way it happens without the Christian Right throwing a tizzy, so policy as usual will likely continue.
And what's ironic about their protest is that the policy they advocate for actually causes more people to get and stay on drugs, along with selling and profiteering for drugs.
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