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Old 03-15-2017, 02:00 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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Since health care is so expensive, perhaps there's an alternative to undergoing expensive medical treatment:

Legal assisted suicide, no questions asked. Legalize it, and once someone's diagnosed with cancer or diabetes, if they can't afford treatment, they have the option if going to an assisted suicide center and pay a small fee to be painlessly and quickly put down.

That family won't have to go into debt (assuming that the patient chooses this option), and they can avoid further suffering. It'll also save taxpayer money.

Don't worry, taxpayer money wouldn't fund the assisted suicides, it'd simply be legal.

Agree or disagree?
You can already do it for a small fee by traveling to Switzerland - you don't even have to be sick. So this is an option as long as you have a few grand - most people can get access to that kind of cash.
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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Since health care is so expensive, perhaps there's an alternative to undergoing expensive medical treatment:

Legal assisted suicide, no questions asked. Legalize it, and once someone's diagnosed with cancer or diabetes, if they can't afford treatment, they have the option if going to an assisted suicide center and pay a small fee to be painlessly and quickly put down.

That family won't have to go into debt (assuming that the patient chooses this option), and they can avoid further suffering. It'll also save taxpayer money.

Don't worry, taxpayer money wouldn't fund the assisted suicides, it'd simply be legal.

Agree or disagree?

I seem to remember President Obama's solution.


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Old 03-15-2017, 02:19 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust View Post
Since health care is so expensive, perhaps there's an alternative to undergoing expensive medical treatment:

Legal assisted suicide, no questions asked. Legalize it, and once someone's diagnosed with cancer or diabetes, if they can't afford treatment, they have the option if going to an assisted suicide center and pay a small fee to be painlessly and quickly put down.

That family won't have to go into debt (assuming that the patient chooses this option), and they can avoid further suffering. It'll also save taxpayer money.

Don't worry, taxpayer money wouldn't fund the assisted suicides, it'd simply be legal.

Agree or disagree?

So, your 'solution' to being diagnosed with a need for a replacement hip which may cost 10X as much in the US as in a number of other countries would be death?

Seems a bit drastic to me.
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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So, your 'solution' to being diagnosed with a need for a replacement hip which may cost 10X as much in the US as in a number of other countries would be death?

Seems a bit drastic to me.
Sounds like a perfectly reasonable Republican solution to me. I'm actually surprised Paul Ryan hasn't suggested it yet. He and the rest of his party absolutely views those who are not wealthy as worthless to society anyway.
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust View Post
Since health care is so expensive, perhaps there's an alternative to undergoing expensive medical treatment:

Legal assisted suicide, no questions asked. Legalize it, and once someone's diagnosed with cancer or diabetes, if they can't afford treatment, they have the option if going to an assisted suicide center and pay a small fee to be painlessly and quickly put down.

That family won't have to go into debt (assuming that the patient chooses this option), and they can avoid further suffering. It'll also save taxpayer money.

Don't worry, taxpayer money wouldn't fund the assisted suicides, it'd simply be legal.

Agree or disagree?
Dang it. I voted yes before reading the post. I thought it meant eliminate ACA and then re-focus on reducing healthcare costs... But now I see it's about assisted suicide.
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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So, your 'solution' to being diagnosed with a need for a replacement hip which may cost 10X as much in the US as in a number of other countries would be death?

Seems a bit drastic to me.
You know, we may chuckle about it but this is honestly the reality for million of Americans. They avoid going to the doctor for preventative ongoing checkups because, frankly, if the doc found anything they couldn't afford to get it taken care of properly anyway - so they end up dead.

I don't have to reach too far to tell you a story.

I live in MA - #1 health care in the USA (we effectively have ObamaCare/RomneyCare, but our state helps make it work instead of trying to ruin it like make red states have done)....

I pay full boat premiums (hasn't changed really - with or without RomneyCare).

Although I am not a worrier about health, I did start going for yearly physicals at about 45 years old and so I have had all the basic regular checkups, shots, colon checks, blood tests and had simple problems diagnosed and medicated (high blood pressure/stress due to failing health of close family member).

My cousin lives in the south. He is my exact same age. Although he has been to the doctor for one thing or another over the years, his care was never "managed" in the same way (yearly physicals, make sure shots are up to date, check for colon and skin cancer, etc.).

Two weeks ago he finally had that colon checked. Too late. And so he probably will only survive a few months.

And so, death is the verdict that Rick Scott has declared upon many of the people in this state...same with many other govs and state legislators. They could - if desired - have taken the medicare money, built upon the ACA and instituted many other programs to make certain that 95% plus of the population received regular checkups. But they were too busy telling us about death panels.

Death panels are very real but they are, in general, the governors and legislators in states that refuse to attach the proper priority to medical care for ALL their citizens.
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Houston
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You can already do it for a small fee by traveling to Switzerland - you don't even have to be sick. So this is an option as long as you have a few grand - most people can get access to that kind of cash.
Most people have a rope around the house or five bucks to buy one.

People do not need assist in killing themselves. Heck, people accidentally do it every day.
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Houston
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My cousin lives in the south. He is my exact same age. Although he has been to the doctor for one thing or another over the years, his care was never "managed" in the same way (yearly physicals, make sure shots are up to date, check for colon and skin cancer, etc.).
Colonoscopies are not that expensive. Your cousin neglected his own health.

It comes down to individual responsibility.
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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You can already do it for a small fee by traveling to Switzerland - you don't even have to be sick. So this is an option as long as you have a few grand - most people can get access to that kind of cash.
Just put it on your credit card.
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