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Originally Posted by steven_h
Erm... no citizen can walk up to a home knock on the door and if the owner is pointing a gun at him/her shoot him/her. Only the police can do this, and they spin everything as reasonable.
Cops, while I respect the nature of their work, have become spin doctors themselves. This makes it possible for some really bad ones to get away with really bad deeds.
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Originally Posted by 2mares
Some jurisdictions have stand your ground laws that extend to anywhere a person can legally be. Sorry but if someone points a gun at your head I'm pretty sure the courts would be lenient if you shot first.
Of course cops have more leeway because in their work they are going after criminals, they are shot at.
Good rule of thumb is dont point your gun at a cop. In this case the cops followed an assault suspect to that particular building. They were going door to door looking for him. Door opens, bam, guy pointing a gun in their face. I can see where both courts ruled in favor of the officer. Who opens their door pointing a gun?
You led off with the premise that somewhere it may be legal, and then said you're "pretty sure" a court would be lenient if you shot that person.
Sorry, no. Any stranger knocking on a door at 1-2-3-4am should very well expect there will likely be a gun behind that door.
Conversely, if said person knocks on that strange door at 1-2-3-4am and is armed and kills the occupant of the home for wielding a gun... that is murder, and most likely premeditated.
Cops are not supposed to be above the law. Seems to be heading that way though.
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter
You believe the cops, huh???
I used to myself, but... not so much anymore. In this case it should have been intentional manslaughter at the very least.
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Originally Posted by Colorado^
You just said yourself there was an assault suspect who fled to that particular building.
That's a pretty good reason to answer the door with a gun don't you think?
...and then there's that!
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When all is said and done, liberal judges always seem to side with the criminals, especially when they're cops.
Okay Scott had a gun. The offcers probably shot him because he wasn't obeying officers order, that happens. When you point a gun at a police officer they have that right to protect themselves.
You do know more and more criminals announce them as police nowadays, right?
I do not own a gun, therefore I would not have answered the door in the middle of the night without more information. That they announced themselves as Police would not have mattered.
I would have called 911 and my neighbors. Police can be at my door in about 1 minute. Neighbors in a matter of seconds.
There seems to be a dispute if the gun was aimed at the officer or pointed down.
I was not there and do not have access to all the information that was available to the court.
I do not own a gun, therefore I would not have answered the door in the middle of the night without more information. That they announced themselves as Police would not have mattered.
I would have called 911 and my neighbors. Police can be at my door in about 1 minute. Neighbors in a matter of seconds.
There seems to be a dispute if the gun was aimed at the officer or pointed down.
I was not there and do not have access to all the information that was available to the court.
One thing for sure...the cops will ALWAYS cover for their own. That's why I no longer trust their testimony. They wont bury their cohorts no matter what. And everyone knows it.
They're always gonna make sure that their stories all jibe and completely fit the narrative.
The increasing militarization of the police is a problem that has needed to be addressed for a long time, but unfortunately it was hijacked by the BLM and other SJW groups and made in to a racial issue, which allowed it to devolve into a white vs black emotionally charged issue that completely ignored what was at the root of a problem Americans of all races share. It was almost as if it had been designed that way.
cool so minorities are getting shot and murdered and now it is their fault.
Video is the only reason we are even being made aware of the abuses. Until recently cops have just been killing people and lying about it. it will not be that long before there are so many cameras that we will be able to sue cities that protect lying cops into the dirt. Take enough money from a city and they will mend their ways.
And the good news is, Trump is such a thug the ACLU is going to have money to support a lot more people.
Do not have a gun in your hand, if the police knock on your door, Do not open your door, with a gun in your hand.
If the Police see a gun in your hand after your door is opened. They will most likely demand that you drop your gun, if you don't drop your gun, you will be most likely shot to death.
This should be a (PSA), public service announcement, shown on TV every night. This will save many lives of Dumb people.
Do not have a gun in your hand, if the police knock on your door, Do not open your door, with a gun in your hand.
If the Police see a gun in your hand after your door is opened. They will most likely demand that you drop your gun, if you don't drop your gun, you will be most likely shot to death.
This should be a (PSA), public service announcement, shown on TV every night. This will save many lives of Dumb people.
If the cops got the wrong address and Scott hadn't broken any laws then it would have been a reasonable assumption on his part that the cops were actually robbers posing as cops since there would have been no legitimate reason for the cops to be at his door in the first place.
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