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Old 03-22-2017, 01:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Not that practical.

The genie is out of the bag on this one. There are so many guns out there in so many hands, that trying to limit them in any way would be like peeing in the ocean.

I think a more reasonable long term approach may be to make military service mandatory for everyone when they graduate high school. For every 2 years you serve, you get 1 year of paid college,

The service would 'weed out' a large portion of idiots and psychos and their names would go into the gun registry as such so they could never buy one.

On the other hand, those that serve honorably would, at their request, be issued a side arm and a permit to carry on discharge.

Nothing is perfect but now you have a better list of people that should not have a fire arm and hopefully, a bunch of level headed people that are armed and know how to use it.
We used to teach gun safety in school.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Raleigh-Durham NC
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While I'm all for letting the market choose what gun they want, this is another reason they are not for sale


- A New Jersey Law That's Kept Smart Guns Off Shelves Nationwide : All Tech Considered : NPR


what a crazy law!


so the sale of even just one smart gun anywhere in the US automatically triggers a full and complete handgun ban in the state on NJ?


this is nuts
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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People don't appose smart guns. The problem is that the current "smart" guns are really stupid. They malfunction more times than they work.

For the government to mandate that we have to have smart guns NOW is ludicrous. Let the people and the market decide. If the smart gun technology matures enough, it will be adopted by many. If certain people won't choose smart guns then, it's OK too.

In the meantime, we still trust the old mechanics.

Also guns have long shelf life - guns made a few hundred years back are still functioning perfectly today. So what do we do with 300 million guns in existence? Confiscation?
I wouldn't suggest that. I do think that this emerging technology is worth developing, though.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: USA
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What if Russian hackers or the CIA manage to disable your smart gun? What if the ruling class decides that the masses are getting uppity and need to be disarmed at the push of a button?

I'm pretty agnostic about the whole gun issue, but I'm going to side with the gun rights crowd on this one.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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What if Russian hackers or the CIA manage to disable your smart gun? What if the ruling class decides that the masses are getting uppity and need to be disarmed at the push of a button?

I'm pretty agnostic about the whole gun issue, but I'm going to side with the gun rights crowd on this one.
If you think I am opposed to gun rights, you are mistaken. I am not, although I do think more extensive background checks are a good idea. I was just wondering why some people are opposed to smart guns, and I got some good answers. I still think the technology if worth developing, for those who want it.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No way, Jose.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:29 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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We need smart people, not smart guns.


You'd think anyone posting on a computer would understand the potential for 'tech' letting you down at the most inopportune time.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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300 million guns already in the US.

If a company wants to offer them, I have no issue with that, but I most likely won't ever purchase one.

Although, I really like the idea of cops having them.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Originally Posted by ditchoc View Post
Not that practical.

The genie is out of the bag on this one. There are so many guns out there in so many hands, that trying to limit them in any way would be like peeing in the ocean.

I think a more reasonable long term approach may be to make military service mandatory for everyone when they graduate high school. For every 2 years you serve, you get 1 year of paid college,

The service would 'weed out' a large portion of idiots and psychos and their names would go into the gun registry as such so they could never buy one.

On the other hand, those that serve honorably would, at their request, be issued a side arm and a permit to carry on discharge.

Nothing is perfect but now you have a better list of people that should not have a fire arm and hopefully, a bunch of level headed people that are armed and know how to use it.
I was in favor of Universal Military Training 60 years ago, and I still am.
To amplify the idea presented above, upon graduating from Basic Training, each person will be issued a "smart" rifle and pistol, and 200 rounds of ammunition. They will be expected to keep those weapons, and maintain proficiency in their use, for the rest of their lives, as members of the Unorganized Militia in accordance with 10 United States Code. They must maintain their ammunition stockpile at 200 rounds or more for each weapon. They will be expected to send annual reports to the Director of Civilian Marksmanship detailing their proficiency practice (yes, the DCM IS an actual part of the Federal Government!) and number of rounds fired.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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This question was inspired by another thread here, but it's not really part of that thread.

Why do people oppose "smart" guns, which can only be fired by authorized users? Seems to me like a good way to keep children from accidentally shooting someone, or to prevent an intruder from killing a homeowner with that person's own firearm?

I am not asking to start an argument, I just honestly want to know if there are any good arguments against this technology.
sounds to me that if the tech exists there is likley a market for it.

it could have a bunch of flavors to make it even better.

this is something that will clearly happen in most places around the world but it will take time.
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