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Old 03-29-2017, 04:44 PM
 
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All you need to know about the Constitution...
OP, ignore this garbage, it's revisionist garbage which naturally is supported with wikipedia.
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:54 PM
 
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Not a book, exactly, but there is some pretty darn good stuff here:

Contents | The Illustrated Guide to Law

It's more of a law primer than specifically a constitution one - the chapter on constitutional law is still being drawn - but the guy knows his stuff. Plus it's pretty funny.
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:55 PM
 
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As an American I feel very Uneducated in the subject of our laws, our freedom and our rights. Sure everyone knows not to steal and kill and what not. But I really want to know? Looking for books but have had no luck if any one knows a book ( or books) that give me the information I need to be empowered by the American law?please post!


The Five Thousand Year Leap and The Making of America are both excellent books on our founders and every aspect of the Constitution.


https://www.amazon.com/5000-Year-Lea...sand+year+leap


https://www.amazon.com/Making-Americ...0N4D2P11HTFF41
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Old 03-29-2017, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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OP, ignore this garbage, it's revisionist garbage which naturally is supported with wikipedia.
Did you really just call the Kentucky and Virginia resolutions, revisionism?

https://www.monticello.org/site/rese...ia-resolutions

https://billofrightsinstitute.org/fo...y-resolutions/

https://www.britannica.com/event/Vir...ky-Resolutions


Did you really just called the Hartford Convention revisionism?

Hartford Convention of 1814 started secession, states' rights talks in New England - Hartford Courant

The Hartford Convention and the Specter of Secession - UConn Today

https://www.britannica.com/event/Hartford-Convention


I sure hope not, because if you were, you are obviously completely ignorant of US History.

https://www.loc.gov/wiseguide/may05/constitution.html


Everything I said was 100% accurate. Prove that it isn't, any of it, even a single word.
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Old 03-29-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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Red, I know my history. And your interpretation is...special.

The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions were nothing more than separate Op/Ed pieces, authored by Jefferson and Madison - anonymously. They were written in response to the Sedition Act of 1798, enacted by a Federalist dominated government. It's of note that Jefferson's Kentucky Resolution went much farther in its radicalism than Madison's Virginia Resolution. It's also quite revealing that President Jefferson used the Sedition Act to prosecute and imprison Federalist pamphleteers, much in the same way that Federalists originally used the Sedition Act to prosecute and imprison Republican pamphleteers.

There was no real "Northern Secession Movement" in 1812. There had been a series of disenfranchised Federalist politicians in New England and in New York who discussed secession in response to the complete victory of Jefferson's Republicans in 1800. And although some Federalists who attended the Hartford Convention privately discussed among themselves the concept of secession, the matter was never brought up for a vote at the convention.
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Old 03-29-2017, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Red, I know my history. And your interpretation is...special.

The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions were nothing more than separate Op/Ed pieces, authored by Jefferson and Madison - anonymously. They were written in response to the Sedition Act of 1798, enacted by a Federalist dominated government. It's of note that Jefferson's Kentucky Resolution went much farther in its radicalism than Madison's Virginia Resolution. It's also quite revealing that President Jefferson used the Sedition Act to prosecute and imprison Federalist pamphleteers, much in the same way that Federalists originally used the Sedition Act to prosecute and imprison Republican pamphleteers.
The point I was trying to make, is that before the ink had even dried on the Constitution, people like Alexander Hamilton had already begun reinterpreting the Constitution in ways that far exceeded its original mandate. Which even brought the ire of James Madison himself.

Furthermore, I was trying to explain that most of what people believe about the Constitution, isn't actually true. And in the case of the "Judicial Review", the case that created Judicial Review, was Marbury v. Madison. And that Madison being James Madison, the "father of the Constitution". James Madison didn't exactly agree with that decision, and neither did Thomas Jefferson.


Thus my actual point is, almost everything that is written about the Constitution is bull****. A sort of over-glorified pseudo-history.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT0qNAYJQWU


Don't trust anything written by political hacks with an agenda. Because the truth is, the Constitution means whatever the Supreme Court says it means. Thus, talking about what rights you have is an exercise is stupidity. You have no rights.

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There was no real "Northern Secession Movement" in 1812. There had been a series of disenfranchised Federalist politicians in New England and in New York who discussed secession in response to the complete victory of Jefferson's Republicans in 1800. And although some Federalists who attended the Hartford Convention privately discussed among themselves the concept of secession, the matter was never brought up for a vote at the convention.
It was never brought for a vote, but it was being discussed. What brought the Hartford convention to a close, was that the War of 1812 ended during the Convention.

But regardless, that point I was making, is that most Northerners believed that they had a right to secede. Nearly every newspaper in New England either wanted secession, or wanted to throw the Western states out of the union(they had also opposed Jefferson's Louisiana purchase).
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Old 03-29-2017, 09:03 PM
 
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As an originalist I say start with the Federalist Papers.
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Old 03-29-2017, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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As an originalist I say start with the Federalist Papers.
As an originalist, I say that the Federalist Papers are even a bit suspect. You should also read the anti-federalist papers. And be aware that the Federalists were thrown out of office from 1800 till pretty much Abraham Lincoln, because Alexander Hamilton was a scumbag who got shot by Aaron Burr.

ANTI-FEDERALIST PAPERS | The Federalist Papers


Also, most of the Federalist Papers were written by Alexander Hamilton. And most of the founders kind of hated Alexander Hamilton, with the primary exception being George Washington.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p-NlbifWrk
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Old 03-29-2017, 10:33 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Ask me a specific question on freedom and I will tell you the answer.
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Old 03-29-2017, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Ask me a specific question on freedom and I will tell you the answer.
Why are we free? And what does freedom really mean?


"Off goes the head of the king, and tyranny gives way to freedom. The change seems (endless). Then, bit by bit, the face of freedom hardens, and by and by it is the old face of tyranny. Then another cycle, and another. But under the play of all these opposites there is something fundamental and permanent — the basic delusion that men may be governed and yet be free." - H.L. Mencken
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