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I'm sorry you don't believe people can change and make things better for themselves... or that others may desire to help people in tough situations.
You were a 6 week old fetus at one time. Are you important? You tell me...
I'm not a 6-week old fetus anymore. I'm a major investment. My family invested a lot of time, effort and money to raise me, and society invested a lot of time, effort and money to educate me and socialize me. As an intelligent, moral, and responsible woman, I should be able to make decisions regarding my body and my life that have NOTHING to do with you. As a human adult, I expect you to respect my lawful, thoughtful decisions and mind your own business. But that's way too much to ask, isn't it?
It is red states that started this and have screamed for it for years. Sorry if wanting to see those same people pay the price for their short sightedness is so troubling but that is reality. Those red states that have elected these people to make this happen will be the ones to pay the price when their communities suffer.
I am very happy to live in a blue state that can objectively see why this is a mistake. I choose to live in a state that is more pragmatic and I think our schools and communities are stronger for it. My parents planned for us and our children were very much planned. Yes, these women will suffer and so will there children. What is really sad, really really sad, is how happy those red state voters will be without understanding the long term effects, even on themselves and their families.
Ahhh ... it finally comes out. You are so fecking bi-partisan that you openly take pleasure in seeing women suffer from lack of services just because they live in states where the majority party makes crappy decisions.
That makes you a terrible person in my book. Vapid and devoid of true compassion ... just a strong sense of elitism and smug hope for failure no matter who it actually affects at the end of the day. Well gee us women are just *so* lucky to have someone like you fighting for us .. even if it's completely fake.
I'm not a 6-week old fetus anymore. I'm a major investment. My family invested a lot of time, effort and money to raise me, and society invested a lot of time, effort and money to educate me and socialize me. As an intelligent, moral, and responsible woman, I should be able to make decisions regarding my body and my life that have NOTHING to do with you. As a human adult, I expect you to respect my lawful, thoughtful decisions and mind your own business. But that's way too much to ask, isn't it?
I'm not in your business. I do think all 6 week old fetuses are worthy to be a major investment like you.
If you choose to terminate that investment. That's your business. Pay for it. Leave me out of your business. If you want to support organizations that offer those services so other "investments" can be terminated, donate your money. Leave me out of your business.
Seacove is more interested in arguing the fact that reproductive healthcare is an everyone's problem, and that red states, where you are telling us all that abortion isn't an issue, are prepared to remove an important provider of reproductive healthcare that serves primarily the poor in those red states. Unless you are going to argue that there aren't any poor people in states like Mississippi?
Thanks DC, exactly. Reproductive health is everyone's problem because we are communities with schools and families. This is so incredibly short-sighted. It will take years for red states to figure out that getting rid of Planned Parenthood cost them so much more. It was used to drive votes and voter participation by politicians in red states. It worked and now they can live the results of their vote.
This is not a problem blue states have to solve and telling blue states to fund it for red states will not help them because unfortunately, they will need to live the result to understand.
I'm not in your business. I do think all 6 week old fetuses are worthy to be a major investment like you.
If you choose to terminate that investment. That's your business. Pay for it. Leave me out of your business.
Yeah, you are in my business. Defunding Planned Parenthood takes away my freedom of choice. And news alert, you aren't paying for anybody's abortions. YOU AREN'T PAYING A DIME FOR ANYONE'S ABORTION. NO TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR ABORTIONS. Do you think you can grasp that?
Ahhh ... it finally comes out. You are so fecking bi-partisan that you openly take pleasure in seeing women suffer from lack of services just because they live in states where the majority party makes crappy decisions.
That makes you a terrible person in my book. Vapid and devoid of true compassion ... just a strong sense of elitism and smug hope for failure no matter who it actually affects at the end of the day. Well gee us women are just *so* lucky to have someone like you fighting for us .. even if it's completely fake.
So the people voting for the majority party that created this are fine but people that can see what will ultimately happen and how it will be an expensive education for that state is bad? Okay.
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Originally Posted by boxus
I thought with the ACA, people will have coverage for these things?
Is such a thing not able to support itself off of donations?
State and local governments are still welcomed to provide their own funding, and really, this should be an issue handled at the state and local level.
By all means. Red states should just not complain about the results later because this will be a very expensive, very long term, self-created and avoidable situation.
We certainly don't want low-income Americans to get the birth control or screening for STD's they've been getting from Planned Parenthood.
Planned Parenthood is redundant and unnecessary. There are many times more taxpayer-funded Public Health Department low-cost or free Family Planning Clinics than there are PP facilities.
Yeah, you are in my business. Defunding Planned Parenthood takes away my freedom of choice. And news alert, you aren't paying for anybody's abortions. YOU AREN'T PAYING A DIME FOR ANYONE'S ABORTION. NO TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR ABORTIONS. Do you think you can grasp that?
How does it take away from your freedom of choice? Please explain this.
Please do not tell me what I care about, when you have no clue.
If you care about sustaining what PP does, and you believe in their cause - send them some money.
This is what churches do when they help others. They put in their time and effort and money and help.
The problem with this logic is that people donate to causes without the larger picture in mind. They will donate to save the cute pandas, but not endangered fish or amphibian populations that are arguably more important. They'll donate to breast cancer research because of a great pink ribbon marketing campaign, but not to lung cancer research, despite the fact that lung cancer kills more people than any other cancer and has appalling low cure rates.
Government has a role to play in making sure that money is going to those causes that are important to our country and society as a whole, not just the ones that are easy to market or make a profit off of.
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