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A preemptive surgical strike on North Korea's nuclear facilities does not necessarily lead to a full scale war as many tend to believe in this forum.
In fact, such idea has floated in different times over many presidencies. In early 1990s, President Clinton came very close to choose such option.
Unlike other nuclear capable countries, friend or foe, North Korea is the only one that openly manifests it will use the weapon without reluctance on US. And it has been constantly improving its capability to be accurately striking at U.S.
Isn't that an imminent nuclear threat?
And given the past reckless record of North Korea, i.e. bombing up an entire South Korean presidential entourage in Burma which was a neutral country, sending an agent to plant a bomb in KAL jet,.....etc., those who think that its leadership dare not use nuke is very naive.
It is way past the point of debating whether should there be a surgical strike but when.
China is either unwilling or unable contain that nutjob. They most likely have the good sense to not get get in way of us doing so.
The vast majority of the South Korean population does not want a war, because they know that they will suffer massive casualties. If Trump goes ahead with a unilateral strike, without South Korean consent, then you'll have made an enemy of the South, as you will have consigned their population to enormous suffering and death based on the theoretical possibility that the North will launch an ICBM in a first strike, OR on the stance that North Korea does not have the right to possess a nuclear weapons for a deterrent.
You know why millions of South Koreans were out protesting to get rid of their president? The corruption issue is only the tip of the iceberg. The underlying reason was because she was perceived as being too eager to go along with whatever the United States would propose, even if it would endanger the lives of the South Korean people. She was basically "fragged" by the people. I repeat - the South Korean people do NOT want a war, and will not take kindly to the United States doing anything that may provoke one. Plus, most South Koreans believe that both North Korea and South Korea have the right to develop a nuclear arsenal, and the masses of the South Korean people, notwithstanding a few hawks in the leadership, would completely oppose potentially starting a general war on the Korean peninsula in an attempt to denuclearize the North.
If Trump doesn't understand the complexity of the Korean situation and act with these facts in mind, we're screwed.
Good grief. "War with Country Next may be our only option." That is complete and utter BS. There are always options to starting wars and killing thousands or hundreds of thousands of people. The US just isn't a fan of diplomatic solutions, because the war machine costs more and is a lot more exciting than meetings and speeches.
A preemptive surgical strike on North Korea's nuclear facilities does not necessarily lead to a full scale war as many tend to believe in this forum.
In fact, such idea has floated in different times over many presidencies. In early 1990s, President Clinton came very close to choose such option.
Unlike other nuclear capable countries, friend or foe, North Korea is the only one that openly manifests it will use the weapon without reluctance on US. And it has been constantly improving its capability to be accurately striking at U.S.
Isn't that an imminent nuclear threat?
And given the past reckless record of North Korea, i.e. bombing up an entire South Korean presidential entourage in Burma which was a neutral country, sending an agent to plant a bomb in KAL jet,.....etc., those who think that its leadership dare not use nuke is very naive.
It is way past the point of debating whether should there be a surgical strike but when.
We are fine, we have anti ballistic missiles to cover the west coast, the launch would be detected instantly and we would be fine. South Korea in the other hand not so much. Nk can detonate warheads on the ground at the border and kill millions of.South koreans, No one could stop them.
Unbelievable this lunatic was able to get nuclear weapons in the first place. Although I'm against most foreign intervention this is a special situation. Scary issue to tackle though when your talking about nuclear weapons. At least trump is trying to address this unlike past administrations that swept it under a rug. Would be nice if china played a big role. If they want to be a big player on the world stage they need to help solve the major issues, this one in particular due to their geography.
I trust general Mattis handling this if we do decide to take action.
Very nasty situation, seeing that China likes having the Potbellied-POS throwing his weight around.
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Unbelievable this lunatic was able to get nuclear weapons in the first place. Although I'm against most foreign intervention this is a special situation. Scary issue to tackle though when your talking about nuclear weapons. At least trump is trying to address this unlike past administrations that swept it under a rug. Would be nice if china played a big role. If they want to be a big player on the world stage they need to help solve the major issues, this one in particular due to their geography.
I trust general Mattis handling this if we do decide to take action.
Openly musing about starting a war is a tremendously stupid idea. That's why smart presidents (unlike Trump) don't do it.
Smart leaders (not Trump) realize the need to contain the problem and avoid making it worse by starting WW3 or having nuclear material fall into the hands of whoever cares to steal it or buy it.
Smart leaders (not Trump) realize that this is a very complicated situation with a lot of interested parties who have a lot to gain or lose in such a conflict.
Idiots and simpletons (like Trump) never think things through and operate under the idiotic and long-tested (and failed) belief that the US can swoop in, fire a few missiles, and the rest will just work itself out.
Openly musing about starting a war is a tremendously stupid idea. That's why smart presidents (unlike Trump) don't do it.
Smart leaders (not Trump) realize the need to contain the problem and avoid making it worse by starting WW3 or having nuclear material fall into the hands of whoever cares to steal it or buy it.
Smart leaders (not Trump) realize that this is a very complicated situation with a lot of interested parties who have a lot to gain or lose in such a conflict.
Idiots and simpletons (like Trump) never think things through and operate under the idiotic and long-tested (and failed) belief that the US can swoop in, fire a few missiles, and the rest will just work itself out.
A few different presidents have openly mused about starting a war over _____ as a means to get the other side to back down and it has worked. However, we were dealing with more sane opponents and had a more "experienced" president to boot.
P.S. I would prefer to not do a preemptive strike.
Don't you think, in the nuclear age, that one would almost immediately lead to the other?
I hope that China will deal with Kim Jong-un, hopefully in a way that not only makes the world safer, but that also helps the people of North Korea, who are suffering horribly under this nutjob.
China is a big wildcard.
I don't see China starting WW3 in order to defend North Korea as they would lose far more than they would gain from it. It's not unthinkable though.
We might not have any say so, if NK fires first. Japan thinks the threat is real enough that they are willing to change their pacifist Constitution over it.
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