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Old 04-06-2017, 06:53 AM
 
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The Clintons are very good at starting a narriative against their opponents then standing aside while the fire burns.

They did it with Obama an Birtherism

They did it with Trump and the Russians
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Old 04-06-2017, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The real collusion story is right before our eyes. The Democratic party colluding with the liberal media.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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You are probably right. There are no ties between Trump and Russia...

Except:
https://memphis.craigslist.org/pol/6074364454.html

Last edited by MTAtech; 04-06-2017 at 07:25 AM..
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
You are probably right. We've fallen for a hoax and I didn't know it. It's hard for me to see any U.S. ties to Russia...
  • except for the Flynn thing
  • and the Manafort thing
  • and the Tillerson thing
  • and the Sessions thing
  • and the Kushner thing
  • and the Carter Page thing, definitely the Carter Page thing,
  • and the Roger Stone thing
  • and the Felix Sater thing
  • and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
  • and the Rosneft thing
  • and the Gazprom thing
  • and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
  • and the Azerbajain thing
  • and the “I love Putin” thing
  • and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
  • and the Sergey Kislyak thing
  • and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
  • and the Russian Business Interests thing
  • and the Emoluments Clause thing
  • and the Alex Schnaider thing
  • and the hack of the DNC thing
  • and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
  • and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
  • and NINE Russians mysteriously dying thing who were mentioned in the Steele dossier
  • and Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
  • and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian oligarch Dmitry Rybolovlev and his plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
  • and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
  • and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
  • and the Cyprus bank thing
  • and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
  • and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
  • and the election hacking thing
  • and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
  • and the Steele Dossier thing
  • and the Leninist Bannon thing
  • and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
  • and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
  • and Trump’s reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
  • and Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
So there’s probably nothing there since the swamp has been drained, these people would never lie -- probably why Nunes cancels the investigation meetings all of this must be normal, just a bunch of separate dots with no connection.
Great summary - I will be borrowing this!
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The real collusion story is right before our eyes. The Democratic party colluding with the liberal media.
Even if true, which it isn't, (Trump got something like two billion dollars in free publicity -- even MSNBC covered his entire rallies) that wouldn't be illegal. Trump colluding with a foreign power is illegal.

Really, Trump has more connections to Moscow than Aeroflot.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
You are probably right. We've fallen for a hoax and I didn't know it. It's hard for me to see any U.S. ties to Russia...
  • except for the Flynn thing
  • and the Manafort thing
  • and the Tillerson thing
  • and the Sessions thing
  • and the Kushner thing
  • and the Carter Page thing, definitely the Carter Page thing,
  • and the Roger Stone thing
  • and the Felix Sater thing
  • and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
  • and the Rosneft thing
  • and the Gazprom thing
  • and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
  • and the Azerbajain thing
  • and the “I love Putin” thing
  • and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
  • and the Sergey Kislyak thing
  • and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
  • and the Russian Business Interests thing
  • and the Emoluments Clause thing
  • and the Alex Schnaider thing
  • and the hack of the DNC thing
  • and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
  • and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
  • and NINE Russians mysteriously dying thing who were mentioned in the Steele dossier
  • and Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
  • and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian oligarch Dmitry Rybolovlev and his plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
  • and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
  • and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
  • and the Cyprus bank thing
  • and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
  • and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
  • and the election hacking thing
  • and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
  • and the Steele Dossier thing
  • and the Leninist Bannon thing
  • and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
  • and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
  • and Trump’s reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
  • and Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
So there’s probably nothing there since the swamp has been drained, these people would never lie -- probably why Nunes cancels the investigation meetings all of this must be normal, just a bunch of separate dots with no connection.
MTATech,
You can create just as long of a list of Democratic-Russian connections - much of it as silly as yours.

The fact of the matter is - what proof do you have of Russian-Trump collusion?

On one hand you hypocritically dismiss right wing media - on the other hand you refuse to admit that the DNC's CrowdStrike ran a hit job even though their evidence included an unsubstantiated right wing blog and CrowdStrike themselves are pulling back on their claims and refusing to provide explanations.

You can't see the hypocrisy that you have? You want me to believe an unsubstantiated right wing Russian blogger as 100% true, because the DNC/CrowdStrike told us too...but then you dismiss a right leaning news organization that points out factually CrowdStrike is pulling back on their claims and it was based in part on a right wing Russian blogger?

USE YOUR BRAIN - I often disagree with you - but I always thought you had a brain that you used. Don't be a hypocrite.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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Even if true, which it isn't, (Trump got something like two billion dollars in free publicity -- even MSNBC covered his entire rallies) that wouldn't be illegal. Trump colluding with a foreign power is illegal.
Didn't happen, but it wouldn't be illegal if it did.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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So laughable.

#1 CrowdStrike - that the Democrats hired insisted at the time that Russia not only hacked the US election, but also the Ukraine artillery - Ukraine says it is BS.

#2 Some of Crowdstrike's key evidence was an unsubstantiated blog - LOL!

#3 The DNC still has refused to let the FBI look at their server - just "CrowdStrike" that they hired - I wonder why?

#4 I remember Republicans asking Democrats if they could hire their own pet company to investigate and the point going right over the heads of the Hillary-bots. Derp!

#5 Several cybersecurity experts are now saying that the DNC's CrowdStrike has a pattern of bad methods and inaccurate statements. Derp!

#6 CrowdStrike had previously offered new conclusions in January with no new evidence that doesn't add up and the MSM jumped on board.

The DNC's hiring of CrowdStrike was a hit job period and the MSM was an accomplice.
Crowdstrike...co-founded by Dmitri Alperovitch. A Russian.

George Kurtz, another co-founder, not highly regarded by anyone in the tech industry:

http://www.joshwieder.net/2015/08/cr...urtz-made.html

The above replaced by Burt Podbere, who only cared that the company convince everyone else that:

http://ww2.cfo.com/cyber-security-te...-firms-growth/

Quote:
...it’s impossible for firewalls and other longstanding cyber security fixes to keep their companies’ networks completely free from penetration by hackers.
What better way to garner more business that just started in 2011 than pretending to find Russian hackers.

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Old 04-06-2017, 07:32 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Hmm. The company who said it was hired by Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Debbie was forced to resign from the DNC for helping Hillary to cheat.

I'd think you might want to be a little more interested in it than that since you guys have been basing your entire "Russians cost Hillary the Election" mime on it.
WoW. All this courtesy of a Russian blogger!


Those Clinton's and DWS ~ gotta give them credit. They are SO POWERFUL that they have caused an FBI investigation into Trump's illegal Russian collusion.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:32 AM
 
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Crowdstrike...co-founded by Dmitri Alperovitch. A Russian.
Another Russian-Democratic connection, gasp, don't let MTATech see, he might faint!
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