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Old 04-07-2017, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Originally Posted by marigolds6 View Post
And for those people who cannot afford more fuel efficient cars that cost 2x-3x more than otehr equivalent class vehicles.
Oh, that's right, they can eat cake.
1 Example: Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid: 57 city, 59 highway, 58 mpg combined.
Price: $22,200

Average price car sold in America today (2013): $31,800
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-united-states

There is absolutely no excuse.

 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I don't get to tell people what they cannot or can get pissed off about. Too bad we can't tax stupidity, if states could, I would tax stupidty. But what I can do is put their anger in perspective. It's the petty. 12cents is nothing.

What pisses me off more? People buying 3000 sq ft home then complaining they don't have money for their kids child care. How about people buying a $50,000 car when their income is $50,000 financed for 7 years with 0% down? Now THAT is stupid and deserves taxation.

Americans already have the largest sized homes in the industrialized world. More is not the answer.
Our lifestyle is so beyond ridiculous, we're trying to borrow our way to living the life of Paris Hilton but then b@tch and complain when 12 cents of gasoline taxes rise. Get your crap in order and wake up if you're that person.
If states could tax stupidity, CA would have been an extremely wealthy state a very long time ago with no need to tax anything else.

Your envy of someone's home is your problem. Take it up with the ultra wealthy in LA...the same ones who come out and publicly announce that plastic bags are "bad" 20 years after the rest of the country told them that. Then they ban plastic bags after pushing it on everyone in the state and act like they came up with some revolutionary enlightenment. The same ones who cried about cigarette smoke but allow MJ for recreational use nevermind the fact that MJ smells 15000 times worse than a cigarette ever did. It literally smells like a dead skunk that has been rotting in a full dumpster for 2 weeks. But the CA liberals are just so very proud of it. No idea that they walk around stench ridden. You can't even get a breath of fresh air in the morning because the mentally ill liberals are all lighting up at 6 in the morning. The same ones who dictate what parts of the state get water while they water their lawns excessively during droughts. For the CA liberal, it's "Do as I say...but I'm going to do what I tell you not to do." The absolute stupidity of the CA liberal is mind blowing.

How someone else lives their life is not for you to dictate. If someone wants to live in the ugliest, gaudiest home with shrub lions spitting water, it's their money. Liberals are mentally ill control freaks, and slowly but surely, it is blowing up in their face. CA will be one of the last places where it happens, but it will happen.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:24 PM
 
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Cars do. Freight hauling trucks do not.
Not the data I've seen:

Do Roads Pay for Themselves?

Who Pays for Roads? | Frontier Group

https://www.citylab.com/transportati...-roads/393134/

It’s Time to Stop Pretending That Roads Pay for Themselves – Streetsblog USA

do roads pay for themselves? — Human Transit

Do Roads Pay For Themselves? | U.S. PIRG


Hauling trucks certainly put a lot more pressure on our roads than cars, and that's a good point. I don't know how/if that's ever addressed via fees/taxes.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by man4857 View Post
1 Example: Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid: 57 city, 59 highway, 58 mpg combined.
Price: $22,200

Average price car sold in America today: $31,800
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-united-states

There is absolutely no excuse.
People should buy a new car to offset the gas tax? Financial genius over here
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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People should buy a new car to offset the gas tax? Financial genius over here
I never said to replace people's cars directly because of a gas tax.

I just showed, people spend more money than is necessary to get a fuel efficient car (when in the market for a new one), then b@tch and complain about a 12c increase in gasoline taxes which are stupid. If you're in the market and somehow bought a $31.8K car, but can't seem to pay the 12c increase in gas taxes. Sell your damn car and get a cheaper one.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:27 PM
 
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I dont see the problem. Better public transit, less congestion and better air quality cost money. Getting riled up about a few cents in gas tax is just inane.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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[quote]Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow If states could tax stupidity, USA would have been an extremely wealthy state a very long time ago.
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Man 4857: Fixed that for ya.
Do you even read what you post Einstein ?
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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I dont see the problem. Better public transit, less congestion and better air quality cost money. Getting riled up about a few cents in gas tax is just inane.
But yet public transit systems are always broke
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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If I wanted as the government to dictate something, I would enact a law to outlaw SUVs and trucks completely from being sold.
Wonder what brand of smart car will pull our 40 foot fifth wheel?
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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never mind
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