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Old 04-07-2017, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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PA has the highest state gasoline tax at 58¢ per gallon and some of the worst roads in the USA. A lot of the tax goes to fund SEPTA, which handles the Philadelphia area transportation system (subways, trolleys, buses and commuter rail). The rest of the state gets the shaft.
PA has beautiful roads compared to NJ.

Californians are leaving the state in droves. The cost of living is extremely high given that 25% of all illegal aliens that live in this country live there and drain the tax dollars because of freebies.

 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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I was showing an example of what it means to dictate what cars people drive versus discouraging.

They are different things.
Discouraging: taxing certain things more/less
Dictate: outlaw certain vehicles all together

Now, how does one equate discouraging with dictating because of a gas tax increase is beyond me.
I'm not arguing with you on Discourage vs. Dictate.

I'm pointing out that you literally said COMPLETELY ban the sales, then when I gave a few examples of why you cant do that, you did a 180, changed your argument and tried to make me sound like the ridiculous one.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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You changed your goal posts, again. You said 12 cent gas tax, so what's the big deal. Plenty of cars use diesel.


- $7.3 billion by raising the current 16-cent-a-gallon diesel excise tax by 20 cents - a 125 percent increase starting Nov. 1.

- $3.5 billion by increasing the state diesel sales tax from 9 percent to 13 percent starting Nov. 1.
How many people own diesel cars again for all the cars registered in CA?
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:51 PM
 
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And for those people who cannot afford more fuel efficient cars that cost 2x-3x more than otehr equivalent class vehicles.
Are you feeling quite well?
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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I'm not arguing with you on Discourage vs. Dictate.

I'm pointing out that you literally said COMPLETELY ban the sales, then when I gave a few examples of why you cant do that, you did a 180, changed your argument and tried to make me sound like the ridiculous one.
You misread the post then.

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Originally Posted by man4857 View Post
Because air quality and smog affects everyone, not just you. You're also really brilliant too. Want to breath in smog and die earlier? Go for it. Not me.

No one is dictating what you drive, you're just paying extra to smog up the air. Discouraging is different from dictating. Get your vocabulary in line.

Go back and look at Downtown LA in the 50s and 60s. Look how smoggy it was. Compare it to now. You're telling me regulation/taxation doesn't work?

If I wanted as the government to dictate something, I would enact a law to outlaw SUVs and trucks completely from being sold.
Read it again. Can't process seem to process a conditional sentence?
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:53 PM
 
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You misread the post then.



Read it again.
Its OK, I understand its hard to admit you were wrong. Move on.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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You misread the post then.



Read it again. Can't process seem to process a conditional sentence?
Clearly you cant write a coherent sentence...before you start slinging accusations about not understanding proper grammar, try actually using it first.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Clearly you cant write a coherent sentence...before you start slinging accusations about not understanding proper grammar, try actually using it first.
Nope, apparently you didn't read the post.


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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
Who are you or govt to dictate what people drive?
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Because air quality and smog affects everyone, not just you. You're also really brilliant too. Want to breath in smog and die earlier? Go for it. Not me.

No one is dictating what you drive, you're just paying extra to smog up the air. Discouraging is different from dictating. Get your vocabulary in line.

Go back and look at Downtown LA in the 50s and 60s. Look how smoggy it was. Compare it to now. You're telling me regulation/taxation doesn't work?

If I wanted as the government to dictate something, I would enact a law to outlaw SUVs and trucks completely from being sold.
IF... that's the keyword you seem to can't process to string together with the rest of my statement.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 06:01 PM
 
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They should fix the current budget problems instead of raising taxes. Fix the calpers pension mess, stop funding benefits for illegals, spend the original infrastructure funding on... Infrastructure. By the way, this will also raise the cost of goods.

The idea that raising gas taxes will lower smog is moronic.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 06:08 PM
 
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I think the people dumb enough to continue living in California should pay $10 a gallon. Then they can give salaries to all the illegals they love so much.
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