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Old 04-07-2017, 04:37 PM
 
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Don't you just love liberals already planning on how to spend the "extra" money.

Not even realizing that the reason they raised taxes was because of the a shortfall.

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Both houses of the California legislature passed a 12-cent gasoline tax hike on Thursday, meeting Governor Jerry Brown’s deadline to provide an estimated $52 billion in new revenues, ostensibly for transportation infrastructure.

The bill, which also raises Department of Motor Vehicle (DMV) fees, barely reached the two-thirds majority needed to raise taxes in both the State Assembly and the State Senate. Passage marks a huge political victory for Gov. Brown, who is in his fourth and final term as governor. The political consequences for legislators, however, have yet to be seen, as voters have not yet felt the pinch of a tax hike that, critics say, will hit rural and working-class Californians hardest.
Jerry Brown's 12-Cent Gas Tax Passes Legislature on Deadline - Breitbart

 
Old 04-07-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Don't you just love liberals already planning on how to spend the "extra" money.

Not even realizing that the reason they raised taxes was because of the a shortfall.



Jerry Brown's 12-Cent Gas Tax Passes Legislature on Deadline - Breitbart
Higher gas taxes = forces people to buy more fuel efficient cars.

So pick one: cleaner air or lower gas taxes.

Apparently you chose lower gas taxes. Have fun breathing in smog. Smart one you are.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 04:50 PM
 
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PA has the highest state gasoline tax at 58¢ per gallon and some of the worst roads in the USA. A lot of the tax goes to fund SEPTA, which handles the Philadelphia area transportation system (subways, trolleys, buses and commuter rail). The rest of the state gets the shaft.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Higher gas taxes = forces people to buy more fuel efficient cars.

So pick one: cleaner air or lower gas taxes.

Apparently you chose lower gas taxes. Have fun breathing in smog. Smart one you are.
Higher gas taxes = p1ss people off who will voice their opinion at the voting booth.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Higher gas taxes = p1ss people off who will voice their opinion at the voting booth.
You have bigger problems if you get pissed off at an extra $2 for every 17 gallons of gas (average mid-sized family sedan).

Check your spending priorities. Hell, I'd would have gone further, do 24 cents/36 cents a gallon. Then with the extra money, spend more on fixing roads + give tax incentives for alternative fuel vehicles. Force people out of their stupid SUVs and trucks.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 04:56 PM
 
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You have bigger problems if you get pissed off at an extra $2 for every 17 gallons of gas (average mid-sized family sedan).

Check your spending priorities. Hell, I'd would have gone further, do 24 cents/36 cents a gallon. Then with the extra money, spend more on fixing roads + give tax incentives for alternative fuel vehicles. Force people out of their stupid SUVs and trucks.
Who are you or govt to dictate what people drive?
 
Old 04-07-2017, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Gas Prices are already over $3 at many California pumps.

They intentionally have crappy roads just so they can justify the tax increase because they are so busy spending on welfare programs that have no benefit.

While people in bordering Arizona are paying $1.99

They have a special liberal blend of gasoline and already very high gas taxes so they already have many, many gas stations above $3 and that's with $45-$50 barrel oil.

California economy model: Socialist-level of taxation with some of the largest income disparities in the country.

Californians are interesting how they view the government. They seem to be okay with the constant tax increases.

Los Angeles for example, had two November tax increases and then one last month and then there is this tax a month later.

Interesting thing is there state is so overwhelmed that it will never be enough. It is a state is a couple of million ultra-rich secluded ultra-rich elites and then there is a massive, massive underclass.

They already have taxed the middle-class out, so the economic model is the same as Brazil basically. Except, I don't Brazil taxes like California.

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Old 04-07-2017, 04:57 PM
 
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Fine by me. I get by on the train or on my bike for 80-90% of all things I do anyway.
 
Old 04-07-2017, 04:59 PM
 
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Fine by me. I get by on the train or on my bike for 80-90% of all things I do anyway.
You should have to pay a bike tax to make up for taxes lost by your biking. Or are you against paying a fair share?
 
Old 04-07-2017, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Who are you or govt to dictate what people drive?
Because air quality and smog affects everyone, not just you. You're also really brilliant too. Want to breath in smog and die earlier? Go for it. Not me.

No one is dictating what you drive, you're just paying extra to smog up the air. Discouraging is different from dictating. Get your vocabulary in line.

Go back and look at Downtown LA in the 50s and 60s. Look how smoggy it was. Compare it to now. You're telling me regulation/taxation doesn't work?

If I wanted as the government to dictate something, I would enact a law to outlaw SUVs and trucks completely from being sold.
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