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Some percent (5%, 10% or whatever x%) of the LE should not be in LE at all. They have physique and strength and what not but don't have common sense. They act like robots i.e. programmed to do things a certain way with all people irrespective of the offending person's age or physique or nature. Might as well replace them with robots.
Also, United airlines need to hire some quality people starting from the top right down to the bottom and while they are at that also try to understand human behavior and feelings. If no passenger volunteered, was there nobody who realized that what they are offering is pennies compared to what passengers would have to give up? Why did they not offer $5,000 or $10,000?
I have full sympathy for the passenger who was off-boarded. I hope he gets compensated by the courts not only for the injuries but for all future loss of patients to his practice because of this video. If he would have given up silently like others, issues like these would never come to the forefront and airlines would be free to offload passenger to suit their employee and business needs or poor-planning.
My wife and I was denied boarding once because the airlines had to accommodate others who missed the connecting flight the previous night (only one flight every 24 hours with a 18 hours non-stop duration). My wife was 4 months pregnant and we were made to stand for 3 hours at the check-in while we were pleading to let us on the aircraft. And this is for a flight booked 3 months in advance.
Because we have one government (ie no competition) and they actually make the rules. Airlines on the other hand don't get to make the rules (in theory, minus lobbyists and our crony capitalistic system) and have other competing businesses that we can move to if we dont like how we are treated.
Being more of a libertarian I value choice, and in your scenario of government vs capitalism, there is no choice in the government side of the equation, which is exactly why its important to limit their powers to the very clear cut, enforceable and necessary laws required for a functioning society.
Oh, please. It's laws that allow the airlines to get away with crap like this. They are the direct beneficiaries of the government, in this instance.
Whenever such action is necessary or advisable by reason of weather or other conditions beyond UA’s control including, but not limited to, acts of God, force majeure, strikes, civil commotions, embargoes, wars, hostilities, terrorist activities, or disturbances, whether actual, threatened, or reported.
The airline got their ass covered. Like I said, the thing they did wrong is putting their hands on the man.
Once you put your hands on the man, you are doomed.
LOL. It's not a condition beyond UA's control. Overbooking is WITHIN UA's control - don't sell that many tickets.
I'd grant the plaintiff as much as possible if I were on the jury.
Whenever such action is necessary or advisable by reason of weather or other conditions beyond UA’s control including, but not limited to, acts of God, force majeure, strikes, civil commotions, embargoes, wars, hostilities, terrorist activities, or disturbances, whether actual, threatened, or reported.
The airline got their ass covered. Like I said, the thing they did wrong is putting their hands on the man.
Once you put your hands on the man, you are doomed.
The "beyond UA’s control" is phrase you want to focus on here.
This was not beyond UA's control. Far from it. They were the cause of this unfortunate incident.
What part don't you understand that he was bumped and told to leave the airplane like the other three passengers. He failed to comply, thus causing disruption.
A disruption wholly instigated by the actions of said airline. Your point?
There was a time when they offered a free ticket to fly anywhere for people to get off the plan. Plus a meal voucher and ticket on next flight out.
Looks as if they don't do that anymore.
NO, and coach flying is torture. How is this a surprise? I just saw a video about a month ago of someone being dragged off a plane just like this. It's like some experiment with rats to shove people ever closer in a skinny tube and see what happens.
We let this go on and more people are flying than ever. Corporations will get away with as much as they can, like employers do. Why should they care about us if they do not have to. They can set the rules. Maybe someday we will have to sing a song and beg to get on board and people will still do it.
LOL. It's not a condition beyond UA's control. Overbooking is WITHIN UA's control - don't sell that many tickets.
I'd grant the plaintiff as much as possible if I were on the jury.
I would too, your second paragraph, but the airline got their ass covered. They have the right to remove him.
You can ask your lawyer, like I said. The airline is not LEGALLY wrong to remove him, they are wrong of putting hands on him and causing him bodily injury.
Exactly, none of this covers removal because the airline couldn't get it organized at the gate to deny boarding.
BINGO! In the age of computers there is no excuse for a crew needing to be somewhere else not providing enough advance notice to the boarding team to have handled this right in the boarding lounge, as every other Airline I've ever flown does.
I have seen passengers collecting their stuff from overhead bins to leave but it has been a rare occurrence indeed and they have usually been made agreeable beforehand.
This is the age of instant communications and for United to not have it show up on the gate's boarding computer that 4 more souls will need accommodating long before the gate opened for boarding is something of a mystery.
That gentleman is going to have lawyers camped outside his door drooling to get a piece of this action.
And then confirming that overall exigency by then allowing him to return to the plane? Yeppers; a lawyers wet dream right there.
"Fly the Friendly Skies" is going to take a major hit over this one with their direct routes to/from China feeling the backlash.
The good that comes out of this will be a general attitude develop to avoid overbooking at all costs and to handle all such instances prior to passengers actually boarding the flight.
"Fly the Friendly Skies"? ... any 'friendlier' and they would have been carrying him out in a body bag.
United should let their own 4 employees find another flight instead of kicking off paying customers. The responsibility for this goes straight to the top. I for one have made a note to never fly United again if there are alternative carriers.
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