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Old 04-11-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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Lol, the "contract" does not state that at all. Read your terms and conditions please...

As mentioned numerous times, the adult thing would be to comply, and settle the matter after the fact, as does numerous adults every day who are wronged.

I got a ticket before, I was right, the cop was wrong. I did not argue, put up a fight, nothing, I just accepted it, went to court, and won.

But at that, the guy was in the wrong, United did nothing illegal, they were not even the ones who used force to remove him.
You must be a complete corporate shill to side with the airline that this is a good policy to embrace.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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You need to look around at who is complaining about United. People from across the political spectrum are appalled.

There were many, many ways United could have handled this, but calling the cops to haul a paying customer off the plane was ridiculous.

I don't consult public opinion to apply basic Reason. In America in 2017, in a world of profligate terrorism, much of it directed at the airline industry, you do not start a conflict within the tight confines of a commercial airliner. You just don't. You shut up and leave, no matter whether you are right, wrong, or indifferent. There are no debates or ideas or statutes or laws or paragraphs or sections or interpretations or opinions on a commercial airliner when official armed personnel are instructing you to leave. YOU. JUST. LEAVE. Deal with it later in any manner available, but NOT ON THE PLANE IN 2017 IN A WORLD OF FREQUENT TERROR.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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His past has absolutely nothing to do with this incident.
Bullfeces. Read it all. You will see that he is a ticking time bomb with poor impulse control and terrible judgment, not to mention problems with morality and honesty. I think he may be a psychiatric risk from the looks of things.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Here is how it is done, and how it needs to be done, and why it needs to be done.


I got bumped from a flight. Then I sued - CNN.com


This lowlife endangered everyone around him, and while the collectivists and the SJWs are ganging up on United, I am here to say that they handled him correctly, and he got exactly what he deserved, given his obstructive and belligerent and non-compliant behavior.

Did you read what you cited?

Aviation lawyer sued for his own account and got $3100? And exactly how does a civilian do that? What is the minimal up front for a Federal District Court suit? $5,000? $10,000? With a payback, if you win, of $3100?

Your posts illustrate how badly you have your brain twisted on this one. "the collectivists and the SJWs are ganging up"? Your paranoia is showing.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:48 PM
 
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You must be a complete corporate shill to side with the airline that this is a good policy to embrace.
All airlines in the world have this policy, Ryan Air, SAS, Aeroflot, ANA, etc, all operate like this. It has been this way for decades. It is not uncommon or anything. The only reason this even hit the news was due to the guy's reaction, then all of a sudden everyone expresses "surprise" by policies that have been around forever that all airlines use.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:48 PM
 
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Bullfeces. Read it all. You will see that he is a ticking time bomb with poor impulse control and terrible judgment, not to mention problems with morality and honesty. I think he may be a psychiatric risk from the looks of things.
Sorry you can't distinguish how this incident is completely independent of this man's character.


It's not as if they escorted the man for giving someone a bj for prescription medication on the plane. They didn't single him out knowing he was a bad person with a poor history.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:49 PM
 
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I don't consult public opinion to apply basic Reason. In America in 2017, in a world of profligate terrorism, much of it directed at the airline industry, you do not start a conflict within the tight confines of a commercial airliner. You just don't. You shut up and leave, no matter whether you are right, wrong, or indifferent. There are no debates or ideas or statutes or laws or paragraphs or sections or interpretations or opinions on a commercial airliner when official armed personnel are instructing you to leave. YOU. JUST. LEAVE. Deal with it later in any manner available, but NOT ON THE PLANE IN 2017 IN A WORLD OF FREQUENT TERROR.
You don't consult public opinion, but you try to sway it when you bring up this man's past. The only reason to bring up his past is to push people's buttons.

As for starting a conflict in a commercial airliner, the problem was that the staff at the United counter did not resolve this issue before boarding the passengers. Dr Dao didn't initiate physical violence. He was hauled out of his seat, and dragged down the aisle by authorities representing the airline. Was he stubbornly refusing to give up his seat? Absolutely. Was he being unreasonable? It seems likely. I think most people think Dr Dao could have handled himself better in the situation. But I think even more people think that United could have handled the situation better.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:50 PM
 
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Individual rights do not include acting insanely in a tight public space when armed officials are obviously determined to see you removed. You shut up, get up, and get off the plane. If you were wronged, you sue, and collect later. But he didn't do that. He acted like an insane banshee, screaming at the top of his lungs and challenging those with the guns to a physical altercation inside a commercial airliner. Any retard knows that is not the place to make such a stand. He got what he deserved. He violated the rights of everyone around him to enjoy a safe trip in a sensitive space - the interior of a commercial airliner.


And then played the race card. Something tells me this lowlife smelled an opportunity. And grabbed the brass ring when it presented itself.
We often disagree, but you're probably right in this case.

Crying "just kill me" is a bit over-the-top. After seeing the way this doctor behaved, I certainly wouldn't want him touching me.

Another poster wrote that China is upset and I thought it was a joke, but it isn't. It's all over social media, which is ridiculous. The others who were randomly chosen weren't Asian, were they?
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:51 PM
 
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Did you read what you cited?

Aviation lawyer sued for his own account and got $3100? And exactly how does a civilian do that? What is the minimal up front for a Federal District Court suit? $5,000? $10,000? With a payback, if you win, of $3100?

Your posts illustrate how badly you have your brain twisted on this one. "the collectivists and the SJWs are ganging up"? Your paranoia is showing.
Not interested. Legal options are varied and numerous. If you are truly wronged, you will find an attorney to take the case. And you will win if your case has merit. And if you lose? Too bad, you lose. That doesn't change the fact that in a world of terror, you do not engage in conflicts on airliners with armed security personnel. If you do, you deserve to be forcibly removed.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:53 PM
 
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Did you read what you cited?

Aviation lawyer sued for his own account and got $3100? And exactly how does a civilian do that? What is the minimal up front for a Federal District Court suit? $5,000? $10,000? With a payback, if you win, of $3100?

Your posts illustrate how badly you have your brain twisted on this one. "the collectivists and the SJWs are ganging up"? Your paranoia is showing.
People are being encouraged to be mindless little lemmings obeying every whim of anyone wearing a uniform.

Pretty soon we'll all be at the mercy of some parking cop convincing us to move our car or Homeland Security will raid our homes 'cause you never know when someone parked with no remaining time on the meter might be a Muslim terrorist. Cripes all this fear driven paranoia is going to make it worthless to be called "free".
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