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Old 04-21-2017, 03:52 PM
 
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These are national foundations. I think they were talking about the vagina hat wearing ones here in America. I doubt they can address it though, they are busy pushing for freedom wearing head gear. Maybe next year.
Yes. They're national feminist organizations that lobbied for a bill to outlaw FGM in the U.S.

I'm sure 100% of the "vagina hat wearing ones" also are opposed to FGM. Many are probably members or supporters of the national organizations.

Are you disappointed that they're not storming the offices of Muslim doctors during business hours and asking to watch procedures? I'm not sure what you think they should be doing.
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Old 04-21-2017, 04:16 PM
 
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These doctors are like Nazi doctors!
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:53 PM
 
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I think MGM would be an adequate reciprocal punishment for those who perform, observe and facilitate such a disgusting and inhumane act.
Many of these doctors have probably had this to them.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:00 PM
 
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500,000 girls are in danger of this barbarism right here in America and where are the women's rights groups.
The feminists often have to choose between religious freedom & sexism so they take the easy way out & keep quiet. If they fight for religious freedom then they are promoting segregation & covering up of women. It is a very confusing time for feminists.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:02 PM
 
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The feminists often have to choose between religious freedom & sexism so they take the easy way out & keep quiet. If they fight for religious freedom then they are promoting segregation & covering up of women. It is a very confusing time for feminists.
Speak for yourself.

This feminist is not a bit confused.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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Yes. They're national feminist organizations that lobbied for a bill to outlaw FGM in the U.S.

I'm sure 100% of the "vagina hat wearing ones" also are opposed to FGM. Many are probably members or supporters of the national organizations.

Are you disappointed that they're not storming the offices of Muslim doctors during business hours and asking to watch procedures? I'm not sure what you think they should be doing.
I'm disappointed that it's such silent support. I'm sure they are against it, and I do appreciate all the foundations trying to help but, Underground in America: Female Genital Mutilation #UndergroundFGM - ABC News
It's silenced, and we just don't ask. Our climate is a strange one right now. They marched for money and healthcare, both of which they have plenty of. They marched against Trump because a female didn't win. I get that, whatever. It didn't help anyone though.

During those marches women cared much more about bans and their Muslim sista's then about addressing real issues like FGM, sex slavery. They tip toed through this march not wanting to offend anyone but Trump supporters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JpvwlNI1M
But, hopefully we will spread awareness despite our fear of irritating Muslims in this fragile climate.

Now, it's not like we don't have our own genital mutilation based on an ancient religious practice done to boys here in America. Those women marching probably have allowed their sons to have the same mutilation done. How can they really address it? We let it happen here daily. Not really that different. I'm sure I'm starting a fire storm here but I really believe it isn't different. I'm not religious, and think physical alteration because of an old religious custom is sad.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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Speaking of Muslim doctors in Michigan...
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About 40 of the hundreds of former patients who were purposely misdiagnosed with cancer or poisoned with unnecessary treatment by Oakland County oncologist Farid Fata will share in an $8-million settlement entered today in lawsuits filed against Fata and three hospitals.
Detroit lawyer Brian McKeen, who worked on the case, announced the settlement Wednesday against Fata, as well as Crittenton Hospital, McLaren Medial Center and Trinity Health. The malpractice victims represent just a fraction of Fata's victims, who number at least 550, but many didn't file malpractice claims; some were unable to sue because of the statute of limitations.
The money will be distributed by an arbitrator in September-October.
Fata was sentenced last summer to 45 years in federal prison following his conviction for violating his patients' trust and raking in more than $17 million from fraudulent billings.
Some Farid Fata cancer patients to share in $8M malpractice settlement


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The former team physician for USA Gymnastics, who worked with female athletes during four Olympic games, has been accused of sexual abuse by more than 50 women.
Dr. Lawrence G. Nassar is facing accusations criminal sexual assault in Michigan and civil allegations in California court, the Indianapolis Star reports.
Along with three counts of sexual assault in Michigan state court, he is facing federal child pornography charges. He is also facing dozens of civil lawsuits.
The 53-year-old Michigan resident was a faculty member at Michigan State University
http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/larry-...deos-michigan/

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Old 04-21-2017, 06:58 PM
 
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I'm disappointed that it's such silent support. I'm sure they are against it, and I do appreciate all the foundations trying to help but, Underground in America: Female Genital Mutilation #UndergroundFGM - ABC News
It's silenced, and we just don't ask. Our climate is a strange one right now. They marched for money and healthcare, both of which they have plenty of. They marched against Trump because a female didn't win. I get that, whatever. It didn't help anyone though.

During those marches women cared much more about bans and their Muslim sista's then about addressing real issues like FGM, sex slavery. They tip toed through this march not wanting to offend anyone but Trump supporters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JpvwlNI1M
But, hopefully we will spread awareness despite our fear of irritating Muslims in this fragile climate.

Now, it's not like we don't have our own genital mutilation based on an ancient religious practice done to boys here in America. Those women marching probably have allowed their sons to have the same mutilation done. How can they really address it? We let it happen here daily. Not really that different. I'm sure I'm starting a fire storm here but I really believe it isn't different. I'm not religious, and think physical alteration because of an old religious custom is sad.
I would never circumsize a son but it is VERY DIFFERENT! The equivelent to female genital mutilation would be cut off the top half or all of a boy's penis. Removing the foreskin is absolutely not comparable to female genital MUTILATION.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:11 PM
 
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I would never circumsize a son but it is VERY DIFFERENT! The equivelent to female genital mutilation would be cut off the top half or all of a boy's penis. Removing the foreskin is absolutely not comparable to female genital MUTILATION.
It is comparable. The females is worse because of the amount of tissue removed but it's still comparable in idea. The idea that either should be done is stupid. It's amazing that we allow one and condemn the other. Still, both happen at an alarming rate.

Instead our women's movement is fighting for equal pay which they have, and healthcare clinics in a time when we have healthcare for those who can't afford it already, and that includes female related care, and gynos. they could be addressing these silent issues that would make a real difference in a women's life.

In the video I linked the girl who was mutilated said she was afraid to come out in fear of being called a racist. So, this climate is helping to silence those women who need the most help. It's a shame.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:12 PM
 
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That cancer doc was horrid. I will forever get second and third opinions from now on because of that story. lol
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