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Old 04-25-2017, 02:55 PM
 
Location: USA
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A San Francisco judge, appointed by Obama, ruled Trump can't cut off funding to San Francisco. It's a shocker.
They love their Illegal Aliens there, even the ones that kill US citizens

 
Old 04-25-2017, 02:55 PM
 
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I suspect it wont be a complicated decision. Its well settled law that you can't force cities and states to enforce federal laws. ESPECIALLY retroactively.
From what I've read it's ruling the EO was too broad but in another article there is this.

. San Francisco and other sanctuary cities say turning local police into immigration officers erodes trust that's needed to get people to report crime.

News from The Associated Press

It's a poor argument but correct in the big picture. The courts have clearly ruled that local police can NOT enforce immigration law. It's up to the federal government to do that.

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If Sessions or this administration had a brain they would tie it to new future funding. This didn't pass muster-not even remotely. And they HAD to know it going in. This is theater of the worst sort.

LOL, whatever happened to the party that believed in states rights? Where are those folks?
It would likely have to be very narrowly tailored.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 02:56 PM
 
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It would likely have to be very narrowly tailored.
Not really. It would have to go through the house and senate, not by executive fiat.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Formerly New England now Texas!
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4:30 central time.

A US judge has blocked Trumps attempt to withhold funds from sanctuary cities. The news is unfolding, but evidently the cities are "entitled" to federal funds even if they do not co-operate with ICE.

I hate it, but the good side is that it will continue to shine the spotlight on the greedy, lopsided left.
US judge blocks Pres. Trump immigration order to cut off funding to “sanctuary cities” | FOX6Now.com
At this rate the 9th circuit will get a makeover before 2018.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 03:02 PM
 
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Not really. It would have to go through the house and senate, not by executive fiat.
They can't cut funding because a city will not do what the courts have ruled they can not.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 03:11 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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wait - didn't the Obama admin lecture AZ a couple years ago that they had no say regarding illegal immigration? but now an Obama-appointed judge declares that the feds have no say in how states handle illegal immigration
 
Old 04-25-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Judges are no longer judges. Laws are no longer laws. The president is no longer the president. Any judge that wants to run the country is now running the country.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 03:14 PM
 
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wait - didn't the Obama admin lecture AZ a couple years ago that they had no say regarding illegal immigration? but now an Obama-appointed judge declares that the feds have no say in how states handle illegal immigration
You are conflating "this is a federal job, not a local one" with "Do what we tell you".

I found both arguments pretty sub optimal. But the "This is my job, not yours" was found to be legal. This nonsense has been found to be illegal to do before.

What would be legal however is passing the infrastructure bill, and limiting it to states without sanctuary cities for example.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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Judges are no longer judges. Laws are no longer laws. The president is no longer the president. Any judge that wants to run the country is now running the country.
Yes. Yes.

Do away with the courts.

Make Trump king with a Royal Family.

Just like Czarist Russia.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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No, the judges are upholding the law and the constitution. The President of the USA is not a dictatorship position and this is why we have checks and balances in place. You do like the constitution right? You know, the one that has that 2nd amendment which right wing radicals insist can never change even if it means mentally ill people and people on terrorist watch lists can buy guns.
I'm horrified by how often this has to be explained to people.
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