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Old 04-26-2017, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
The federal government can deny funds for farting. What they give, they can deny the next day.
Welcome to the top down government our fathers and mothers, grand fathers and mothers created, by changing the role of the federal government.
See, government can select the winners and the losers at will.
Remember Obama doing it? They don't like being on the losing side this time.
NO, actually they can't. If you do a little research you can easily figure all of this out. Here's an easy to read article that breaks it down: Here's Why Donald Trump Can't Defund "Out-of-Control" California | Mother Jones

PS One of the downsides for con's of getting a judge like Gorsuch is that he is unlikely to permit overreach by the Executive branch.

 
Old 04-26-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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The 9th circuit is out of the mainstream. They are getting scared now that they see the possibility of losing funding, love it.
The 9th is going to lose funding? did you just write a new amendment to the Constitution
 
Old 04-26-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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Nope...look up high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
The Judges took an oath to "uphold the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic".
Clearly, they failed to uphold the Constitution in their rulings and instead decided on political decisions. The intent of the President of the United States based on campaign statements!!! REALLY!!!
That is NOT upholding the Constitution. Clearly they should be impeached, tried and removed from office.
Very strange response since this is what you claimed:

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The Constitutional remedy for judicial overreach is impeachment and removal from office. I really think people should start discussing this option. That is the clearest limit on judicial overreach.
Not agreeing with YOU on these issues does not create a criminal offense, what are you even thinking about?
 
Old 04-26-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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All these rulings will be overturned on appeal. The sad part is that we have Federal judges that think they are the most important branch of government.

The Constitutional remedy for judicial overreach is impeachment and removal from office. I really think people should start discussing this option. That is the clearest limit on judicial overreach.
Can you point to the section of the Constitution that provides for impeachment as a remedy for judicial overreach? I'm not familiar with it.
 
Old 04-26-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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The conservatives should actually like this ruling, even if they don't agree with sanctuary cities. Federal laws are up to the federal government to enforce.
A true conservative would like this ruling, or at least understand it.

Willfully ignorant, rabidly anti-immigrant Trump supporters don't like it, regardless of their proclaimed political leanings.
 
Old 04-26-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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A true conservative would like this ruling, or at least understand it.

Willfully ignorant, rabidly anti-immigrant Trump supporters don't like it, regardless of their proclaimed political leanings.


when your platform is brown = bad you tend to be fluid with constitutional law...
 
Old 04-26-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
The federal government can deny funds for farting. What they give, they can deny the next day.
Welcome to the top down government our fathers and mothers, grand fathers and mothers created, by changing the role of the federal government.
See, government can select the winners and the losers at will.
Remember Obama doing it? They don't like being on the losing side this time.
Yes. But "federal government" means congress not the president. A perfect example is highway or education funding that comes with many strings attached (but nothing about immigration enforcement). If Congress says cut off sanctuary cities, then is is legal. If Trump says it without it being in a bill passed by Congress it is not. Simple as that.

I think Trumpies are now learning what Obamabots did over the past eight years: it is virtually impossible for a president to do anything meaningful without the consent of Congress.
 
Old 04-26-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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No it isn't. You are just posturing because you have no data.
Show us the clause or amendment in the US or any State Constitution, or even a city charter, to back your mouth.
I believe I asked this of you many times, never with an answer. Didnt you use to support state's right?
 
Old 04-26-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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No city has the right to conduct business by sheltering illegal aliens. Aiding and Abetting them is against the law!
Repeating a fallacy over and over has never caused it become true.
 
Old 04-26-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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Government agencies cut checks all the time. What are you talking about?
The executive office does not control the money. Congress does.
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