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She secured all the permits and was invited to speak by a group there at Berkeley. As were other conservative speakers on campuses across the country who were bullied and intimidated not to come or had their speeches disrupted. They are all invited on the campus to give a talk to said group who invited them. The liberal blackshirts on campus halted people from exercising their first amendment rights and listening to a person of their own choice.
That is not free speech, that is suppression of free speech.
The ACLU puts it better, but the words "bloody stupid and thin-skinned to protest her mere presence" didn't clue you in?
No, stop twisting it. You said that while you didn't agree with people protesting her presence, you said that university didn't have an obligation to give her a platform, as though it was the university that simply cancelled her event. The university failed to provide to her the same security and support to give her speech to the campus group that invited her. They simply caved to the threats and allowed for a bunch of protesters to ran sack the school, and some of you in here call it freedom of speech.
Now, this was the statement you jumped in to defend:
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We were constantly lectured over the last 8 years about how any criticism of Obama..ANY CRITICISM, was considered hateful and racist and disrespectful...
You mean like fox has done for a good 15 or more years???
Fox keeps just the right side of it, but grind away at left endlessly. learn your history and you will see why fox was created the way it is and who wanted it.... all those 'think tanks" did not come out of thin air..
And the mainstream media never went after FOX either? Fox was a response to all the liberal bias and all the flack conservatives get from the mainstream media outlets. Conservative think tanks and funded in the same manner as liberal think tanks, by donors who subscribe to their core values. Don't act as though Brookings is totally impartial.
You said that while you didn't agree with people protesting her presence
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you said that university didn't have an obligation to give her a platform
I take it you do not disagree on a principal level?
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The university failed to provide to her the same security and support to give her speech to the campus group that invited her. They simply caved to the threats and allowed for a bunch of protesters to ran sack the school
"bloody stupid and thin-skinned" seems to cover that bit.
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some of you in here call it freedom of speech.
It's their lectern. They have the right to decide who speaks there. Was it the wrong decision? Yep. Wusses.
I take it you do not disagree on a principal level?
"bloody stupid and thin-skinned" seems to cover that bit.
It's their lectern. They have the right to decide who speaks there. Was it the wrong decision? Yep. Wusses.
No, the university which was once hailed as a free speech zone is now caving into madmen outside the gates.
Who were you referring to as bloody stupid and thin skinned? The protesters who bullied and intimidated or the university for caving in?
Coulter was invited to speak by a university group on campus. She didn't just show up one day and decide to lecture people. What part of that are you not getting? A group wanted her there and secured her to speak. While you're at it should the university ban her books too or cave into pressure from protesters requesting her books to be banned from the campus library? Should the group who invited her over be expelled or in the very least be barred from ever inviting speakers again?
Just what is it that you are saying because you're all over the map and backtracking on your initial comments.
Who were you referring to as bloody stupid and thin skinned? The protesters who bullied and intimidated or the university for caving in?
Both, really. Seems apt, doesn't it?
The university made a stupid decision, but one that it was well within their rights to make. Telling Ann Coulter that they're scared of the consequences of letting her in is kinda chicken, but it's not a free speech issue.
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