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Old 05-14-2017, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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You couldn't pay me a $300k salary to live in the middle of nowhere Nebraska or Wyoming. After cost of living I'd much rather be in NYC making $50k. Period.

There is a reason why places people actually want to live are expensive.
If you made $50k in NYC, you're living in your car. Actually that's not true-you wouldn't be able to afford parking in the Rotten Apple.
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Thanks....perfect Snowflake liberal who sticks his/her head in the sand.
The feature works for anyone who chooses to use it, it's not offered only to liberals. FWIW, my ignore list is rather short, and has at least two liberals on it. It's not always about not wanting to be exposed to opposing views. I do tend to block people who clog up a thread with post after post that do nothing more than repeat the same argument over and over. It's sort of like a forum version of earplugs to shut out a dripping faucet.
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:27 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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If you made $50k in NYC, you're living in your car. Actually that's not true-you wouldn't be able to afford parking in the Rotten Apple.
NOT true at all.
Brooklyn’s Median Household Income Is Less Than $45,000 - so apparently it IS possible to live on $50,000/year - in part because roughly HALF of the apartments are under rent control. The greater NYC area has over 1 MILLION such units.

New York City census data: Manhattan and Brooklyn are much poorer than you think.

Ken
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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If you made $50k in NYC, you're living in your car. Actually that's not true-you wouldn't be able to afford parking in the Rotten Apple.
There must be people who manage it, though. I mean, NYC has McDonald's and Starbucks, too, right? And no, I am not sure how they do it, I only know that they must, somehow.
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:31 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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There must be people who manage it, though. I mean, NYC has McDonald's and Starbucks, too, right? And no, I am not sure how they do it, I only know that they must, somehow.
Rent controlled housing.

Ken
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:36 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Rent controlled housing.

Ken
There is that, but isn't it hard to find one? I think part of it may also be that not all of Brooklyn is the hip and trendy location that has gotten so much attention lately. Brooklyn is a big place.
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:37 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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NOT true at all.
Brooklyn’s Median Household Income Is Less Than $45,000 - so apparently it IS possible to live on $50,000/year - in part because roughly HALF of the apartments are under rent control. The greater NYC area has over 1 MILLION such units.

New York City census data: Manhattan and Brooklyn are much poorer than you think.

Ken
SO do you have any data to back up your HALF of apartments under rent control and if so, how much rent is paid in these apartments?
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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If you made $50k in NYC, you're living in your car. Actually that's not true-you wouldn't be able to afford parking in the Rotten Apple.
Could be in Mommy's basement since she has a rent controlled apartment.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:37 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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If you made $50k in NYC, you're living in your car. Actually that's not true-you wouldn't be able to afford parking in the Rotten Apple.
Oh please, just stop it.
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Old 05-14-2017, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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But, see, that's the whole thing. I'm assuming (and I'm sure you will correct me if I am wrong) that "standard of living" refers to material possessions, and can be measured, but it's only one element of quality of life, which is quite subjective. Some people's ideal life might be a big house in the country, surrounded by acres of their own land, while people who crave the non-stop action of a city might shudder at the thought of living anywhere that doesn't have shops, clubs, restaurants, and galleries within walking distance.

There are so many elements that go into a person's preference for one part of the country over another that it seems silly to me to try to pick just one.
Yes I agree with you that people have different priorities but yes the term "standard of living" refers to the monetary things you can buy. Quality of life has a much more broad base of consideration.

I've lived and worked in Shanghai, Beijing, Seoul, Moscow and I very much enjoy the lifestyle available in big cities.
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