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Old 05-17-2017, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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let me break this down for ya playah

As for me, Trump is a crook. There is no evidence of such. Trump has been audited annually by the IRS, has been investigated repeatedly by authorities across the country and nada. There is ZERO evidence that he has done anything illegal.
Trump is a crook. He don't have to be convicted to be a crook. The right continue to say Hillary is but she has less evidence than Trump does. The evidence against him while as President alone, is building. This Comey memo is scary and should be treated as an attack on Democracy. This is right out of a dictator's playbook.

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He flips everyday on what he is saying or doing. Serously??? This is your argument against Trump? do you not see how thin that argument is? everyone who read that laughed at you...every politician that ever got elected fits that. do you want them all out?
Um he has lied between what he has said and his staffers have said. And this is not just in the past week. This goes back to the Flynn reports of being compromised. Pence said one thing, Trump and his staff said another.

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Trump is a threat to democracy with firing Comey when Comey is investigation Flynn, asking Flynn to end the investigation . There is no evidence at all that Trump pressured Comey to drop the Flynn investigation. nono. If he had done so, and Comey did not pursue that at the time, then it is Comey that broke the law. The fact is every single person complaining about Comey being fired CALLED FOR COMEY to be fired! further the Democrat who now leads the FBI has stated that the firing of Comey has not impacted ANY of the open investigations being run by the FBI. period.
And who asked for a loyalty pledge from Comey, it wasn't Democrats. Democrats and myself wanted Comey fired for what he did with Hillary, especially in light of Team Trump being investigated into also. That said, the way Comey was fired is the issue lost on many Trump supporters who have used the Democrats wanted Comey out narrative.

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and even Trump's contact with Russians as well "contact with the Russians" where is the evidence? you certainly haven't provided it. Further did you know that Obama actually sent an emissary to Russia when he won his first election before he took office? did you know that? YOu know why he did that? because its typical. normal. just as the contacts and conversations with the Russians that went on between Trumps team and the Russians and other nations was typical. the only non-typical thing is the outrage about all of this by the left.

as giving secrets to the Russians in a closed door meeting Sorry. Presidents have been doing this for decades. its BAU and it is important. and did you know that in our system it is the President that has ultimate authority to decide what is and is not classified? what should and should not be shared with other nations? We know that Mr. Trump did not share either assets or methodology with the Russians. He did evidently discuss threat analysis which is what happens with every president
Um he shared ISIS secrets with them, where have you been this past week? You defend it that has happened all along but not to political enemies. The last time the Russians and Americans have been proper allies led to the Cold War, during World War 2. Even then it was a contemptuous relationship. When has it ever been fine to share secrets with non allies? Don't you wonder why NATO nations don't like this action?

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What needs to happen is, you need to go back to school and learn some civics. dang ignorance has become the new s m r t
Ad hom attack that can relate to you if don't stop listening to right-ring outlets like Breitbart and InfoWars. Except for you it basic current events critical thinking...
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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Yes I support Trump mostly because I don't want this country to turn into a dumping ground for illegals and refugees, and we end up like Venezuela.
or worse yet, like Detroit.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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The funny part is, the ignorant idiots, think impeachment removes Trump from office.
They have no clue that Bill Clinton was impeached and what did it accomplish? Get Bush elected?
These buffoons have no idea that removal also takes a trial in the Senate, followed by a 2/3rds vote for conviction, which they can never obtain, under any circumstances whatsoever. Even if the Dems controlled the Senate by a 60-40 margin, it's still unlikely they could get 2/3rds vote to convict.

Impeachment can't remove Trump, of course, but it can have the opposite effect from what is intended, and send his popularity skyward. Clinton's popularity soared upon his impeachment. In 2014-2015, Obama was embarrassingly reduced to begging the Republican House for impeachment, because he so badly needed the boost in the polls. As it happens, the Republicans in the House did not oblige him, further compounding Obama's humiliation. Obama couldn't even get himself impeached, even when he thought it would help.

The Dems will do well to just set any notions of impeachment out of their little minds, because it's simply not going to bear the results they think it will.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:29 AM
 
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Trump is a crook. He don't have to be convicted to be a crook. The right continue to say Hillary is but she has less evidence than Trump does. The evidence against him while as President alone, is building. This Comey memo is scary and should be treated as an attack on Democracy. This is right out of a dictator's playbook.



Um he has lied between what he has said and his staffers have said. And this is not just in the past week. This goes back to the Flynn reports of being compromised. Pence said one thing, Trump and his staff said another.



And who asked for a loyalty pledge from Comey, it wasn't Democrats. Democrats and myself wanted Comey fired for what he did with Hillary, especially in light of Team Trump being investigated into also. That said, the way Comey was fired is the issue lost on many Trump supporters who have used the Democrats wanted Comey out narrative.



Um he shared ISIS secrets with them, where have you been this past week? You defend it that has happened all along but not to political enemies. The last time the Russians and Americans have been proper allies led to the Cold War, during World War 2. Even then it was a contemptuous relationship. When has it ever been fine to share secrets with non allies? Don't you wonder why NATO nations don't like this action?



Ad hom attack that can relate to you if don't stop listening to right-ring outlets like Breitbart and InfoWars. Except for you it basic current events critical thinking...
i would go back and review each of these non points but it would not matter,.


"he is a crook" "no he is not" see how easy that was? LOL @U


dig up some American law. If the President exposes some super secret covert operation/methodology and some foreign government turns that into figuring out an American foreign asset, and puts that person in prison, the President is not legally liable. Because the President BY LAW has the power to determine on his own what is and is not to be shared either publically or privately with foreign governments. That is the law. PS Barak Obama did exactly that. There is a man sitting in a Pakistani prison who was basically outted by Mr. Obama. that actually happened and no one on the left thought a thing about it. There were no liberal media contortions. no one kvetched over the action. but that man sits in prison because Obama outted him.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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i would go back and review each of these non points but it would not matter,.


"he is a crook" "no he is not" see how easy that was? LOL @U


dig up some American law. If the President exposes some super secret covert operation/methodology and some foreign government turns that into figuring out an American foreign asset, and puts that person in prison, the President is not legally liable. Because the President BY LAW has the power to determine on his own what is and is not to be shared either publically or privately with foreign governments. That is the law. PS Barak Obama did exactly that. There is a man sitting in a Pakistani prison who was basically outted by Mr. Obama. that actually happened and no one on the left thought a thing about it. There were no liberal media contortions. no one kvetched over the action. but that man sits in prison because Obama outted him.
If the Left in general weren't raging hypocrites, they wouldn't have a single principle to stand on.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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The liberal shrieking over any new perceived outrage from Trump is entertainment I would pay for.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I was making fun. I support our President! The Democrats are calling for his removal for stupid reasons.

now you're beginning to get what the problem is, it's President Stupid
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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If the Left in general weren't raging hypocrites, they wouldn't have a single principle to stand on.
LOL. you are right. I guess we should be happy they found this principle to stand on
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Do you want to know why some want Trump impeached?



Because Liberals and the "not my president" crowd can't accept the fact that Trump is president. Even though they say "Anyone who can't accept the results of the election is a threat" (hypocrites). Starting the minute Trump won the election, Liberals (and other non Trump supporters, regardless of political party) have been devising strategies to get him away from the White House. Now that Trump is president, they think they can remove Trump from office and replace him with Hillary. Haven't they took a government class or read the president's successors in the constitution?

Yes I support Trump mostly because I don't want this country to turn into a dumping ground for illegals and refugees, and we end up like Venezuela.
Your post is bs but...."What about the children??"
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The democrats it has to be them, ugh. Do you have any idea who the last president was who really pissed off the CIA, Nixon.

Plus he's gone after the FBI, two organizations that know everything about your life, and numb nuts thinks it's a good idea to trash them. How stupid can he be?
Maybe stupid enough to believe this is still America. Maybe stupid enough to believe that the Government is supposed to be "of the people, by the people, for the people", and isn't supposed to be our enemy.

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Well actually he was not only stupid enough to fire the FBI director because of the FBI investigation into his campaign,
That wasn't the reason, and he even said the investigation would continue. Are you from CNN? Seems like it. Anyone who tells that kind of blatant lie must be working for CNN.

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he then publicly tweets a threat about tapes he may have.
I don't blame him for that. Comey isn't trustworthy, and neither is the media.

It's pretty obvious that Obama had the WH bugged. Protecting himself in that way only seems smart.

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Are you serious? This guy asks Russia to find Hillary's missing emails but it's the media and the dems that are after him.
He didn't ask Russia to find Hillary's emails, and I don't think you're that stupid. But you must think some of us are to make such a statement. Anyone who heard what he said knows it was said satirically.


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Are those who are leaking this info to the media democrats that are in the FBI, and CIA?...., possibly, but Trump started this mess and they are going to finish it.
No, Hillary started this mess, and Obama pushed it along. This is Hillary's claim [that there was Russian interference and Trump collusion], no one else's. Never should have been any investigation in the first place without any evidence. This is an investigation in search of a crime.
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